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Re: Re: Merge dialog

From: Alexander Klenin <klenin_at_gmail.com>
Date: 2007-10-20 10:20:47 CEST

Sorry for such a stubbornness on my part, I honestly feel my
usability concerns are legitimate ones --
but maybe I am wrong and worry about nothing.
Anyway, just one last attempt from me, and I promise to shup up,
at least until I have a chance to test a wizard mode ;-)

On 10/19/07, Stefan Küng <tortoisesvn@gmail.com> wrote:
> > But this IS settings and options for merge command.
> A setting is something you set once, then forget about it.
> This is definitely not a setting: each merge is different.

Yes, some settings stay the same for a long time
and some are changed more often -- but which are which depends on
concrete usage, and it is not optimal to force all users into the
'stupid first-novice' category who need to re-check everything every time
in a pre-determined fixed order.
I, for one, do not remember if I ever changed "Ignore ancestry" setting.
As another example, "Ignore eols" is just as much a setting as it is
in TortoiseMerge.
Yet another example -- for me 'From URL' changes each time,
but for developers working on branches, this URL never changes.

> > Most users will simply click on "Next" and NOT check
> > settings any more after first two or three times using the wizard.
> But they still *see* the page - if something would be completely
> wrong, they might notice it even though they just click on "next".
Yes, they might, or they might not -- attention to such details really get
blurred after tenth time you click through the same pages.
Imagine you have to uninstall/reinstall the same application ten times a day,
each time changing one setting buried inside a 4-step wizard.
Would you not wish that setting to be accessible directly?

> > Sorry, but it that sense the wizard is even worse, since it makes
> > harder to get back and
> > check some setting if you start having doubts on the last tab.
> One click on "Back" and you're there. That's hard?

No, you have to click "Back" one to three times,
and then click "Next" the same number of times to return to the last tab.

> > All I ask for is an option, you can totally hide tabs in wizard mode.
> > I know the options are bad, but this one is really important to me ;-)
> Don't forget that in tab-mode, you would see both the revrange and the
> treemerge pages - which one will get used? Don't say you want a
> checkbox to choose between those two...
If I understood correctly, the first tab will consist of exactly that checkbox?
So TSVN might, for example,
display both pages as separate tabs, but enable controls
only on the one corresponding to the first page selection.

Alexander S. Klenin
Insight Experts Ltd.
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Received on Sat Oct 20 10:20:57 2007

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