Hi Steve,
> > - You're assuming that I want to edit our docs in the CMS. You tell
> > everybody you don't like it, but you didn't discuss it
> beforehand. I never
> > suggested that, because I don't like it as well.
>
> I didn't assume that. You mentioned that on ICQ yesterday.
I should log my ICQ sessions to look up what I said exactly... I recall
saying that we could load the docs into the CMS as well, I never meant to
edit them there. Any CMS/FAQ tool is much better suited for the FAQ than a
static file could ever be. It's all about information retrieval and
reorganization.
Currently we don't have a single source FAQ. Most of it is in the Database
and parts of it are in the doc sources. I'd prefer it if we could create the
FAQ (even as a second document) from the database sources.
> That's because it seems that berlios does backups itself. So there's
> no need for us to do backups too.
All I know is that Berlios creates cvs/svn snapshots. I haven't found a hint
on their backup policy, so I assume that they are not backing up web /
database content.
> > We don't need a download mirror at all. I'd place all the
> downloads on
> > sourceforge. The download mirror on tigris is for you only,
> because it
> > sounds like you don't like the sourceforge option at all.
>
> Why do you insist of placing the installers on sourceforge?
Because it's easy to upload, easy to automate creating releases, easy to
have our custom dowload page point to the right files automatically without
editing it and it looks like they offer more bandwidth and uptime than
berlios does.
> > I wonder how many people will be searching for pre 1.1.7
> releases? The
>
> More than you might think. If you read the mailing list, you will find
> a lot of mails telling "I've switched back to xxx for now".
OK, leave the archive of old releases (<= 1.1.7) on tigris.org. They are
there already. Nobody wants to have them scattered everywhere.
> > current release (1.1.7) can be found on sourceforge and on
> berlios.de now.
>
> I'm going nuts here. That's *exactly* what I never wanted. Now we have
> our installers spread on _four_ servers!!! (tigris, berlios,
> sourceforge and another mirror).
The other mirror is that persons private project. It can be removed from the
download page in a few seconds.
> Please stop that right now. There's absolutely *no* reason to mirror
> the installers for 1.1.7 again.
Berlios.de can be dropped completely. Move everything to sourceforge and
redirect the few berlios.de pages there. Wait a few months and erase the
project at berlios.
> Tigris.org can handle those downloads
> well enough.
I know that tigris can handle the downloads.
> So just leave it there alone.
> What the hell is the point in uploading the installers to sourceforge
> too? Why? Why?
Because you and I both don't like the installers distributed on several
hosts. I want them on one host as well and due to the performance
degradation we observed on berlios and the limited flexibility we have on
tigris, I prefer sourceforge.
Remember the discussion we had before we installed the FAQ and moved the
installers to berlios.de? You suggested sourceforge, I suggested berlios. We
agreed on berlios, because it looked smarter at that time and we also agreed
on watching the performance for a while and then decide upon the next step.
Up to now it wasn't a bandwidth problem, but service availabilitly that is
bugging us.
> > How long does the entire release take you, including build
> time? How much is
> > the manual 'upload & modify settings' time compared to
> that? If you just
> > have to paste a few strings into an automation script that
> does the job for
> > you, how much would that become?
>
> You can't count the build time - that's done automatically while I can
> drink a coffee, eat lunch or do something else.
Grant, but you didn't answer my third question.
Cheers
- Lübbe
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