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Re: Suggestion to group

From: Karl Fogel <kfogel_at_red-bean.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:05:05 -0500

"Johnathan Gifford" <jgifford_at_wernervas.com> writes:
> Are we done beating up the new guy for making a request? :-)
> He's only asking if it can be done. I'm sure he (like many of us)
> have already done one or more of the steps mentioned by those who have
> replied.
> However, the point is, most other mailing lists have gone forth and
> done what he is requesting. Some mailing lists related to this group
> like Subclipse and TortoiseSVN have done this already. Personally, I
> don't think adding [subversion-users] to the beginning of an e-mail
> subject line is to much to ask for. I know it would help with those
> few messages that someone only replied back to the user and ended up
> in another folder only to be found two days later. Besides, some of
> us are stuck with lousy corporate e-mail systems like Novell
> GroupWise. Having an easier way to even identify an e-mail visually
> from our list would be nice.
> The best responses to this posting should be concerning if you are in
> vocal minority or the majority in wanting this request as well? Bike
> shedding the 'how to do this' is not the best response as it doesn't
> have much to do with Subversion anyway.

Everyone agrees that it can be done, technically. But the list
managers (I am one, but not the only one) have decided not to do it,

   a) it would eat up a lot of valuable space in the subject line
   b) the necessary information is already present in other headers
   c) all modern mailreaders know how to use the information in (b)

This issue has been discussed many times, but the three reasons given
above remain convincing to me.

I know you think it would be a nice way to visually identify the
email, but the point is that you can have that (by having your
mailreader add the prefix, if you really want it, based on the other
headers) *without* us imposing it on the other list users.

Information in a subject header cannot be removed by a client
mailreader without loss of information; but a client can add anything
it wants, because the user (presumably) knows if the client is doing

I'm not really recommending that you add any text to the subject
header, of course. A better solution would probably be for you to
filter (based on those other headers) into a particular mail folder.
I'm just pointing out that you *could* add the text yourself if you
wanted to, without the mailing list having to do it for all users.

Phrases like "too much to ask" don't really get at the heart of the
matter. For example, if the list were to add the prefix, as you
advocate, I could just as easily post saying "Is it too much to ask
that this list not munge subject lines and take away valuable real
estate?" :-)


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