On the lists with the prefix, I don't see anyone asking for them to be
taken out. I've seen them asked for before. So that's why I made the
suggestion.
Adam
On Jan 21, 2008 8:05 PM, Karl Fogel <kfogel_at_red-bean.com> wrote:
> "Johnathan Gifford" <jgifford_at_wernervas.com> writes:
> > Are we done beating up the new guy for making a request? :-)
> >
> > He's only asking if it can be done. I'm sure he (like many of us)
> > have already done one or more of the steps mentioned by those who have
> > replied.
> >
> > However, the point is, most other mailing lists have gone forth and
> > done what he is requesting. Some mailing lists related to this group
> > like Subclipse and TortoiseSVN have done this already. Personally, I
> > don't think adding [subversion-users] to the beginning of an e-mail
> > subject line is to much to ask for. I know it would help with those
> > few messages that someone only replied back to the user and ended up
> > in another folder only to be found two days later. Besides, some of
> > us are stuck with lousy corporate e-mail systems like Novell
> > GroupWise. Having an easier way to even identify an e-mail visually
> > from our list would be nice.
> >
> > The best responses to this posting should be concerning if you are in
> > vocal minority or the majority in wanting this request as well? Bike
> > shedding the 'how to do this' is not the best response as it doesn't
> > have much to do with Subversion anyway.
>
> Everyone agrees that it can be done, technically. But the list
> managers (I am one, but not the only one) have decided not to do it,
> because
>
> a) it would eat up a lot of valuable space in the subject line
> b) the necessary information is already present in other headers
> c) all modern mailreaders know how to use the information in (b)
>
> This issue has been discussed many times, but the three reasons given
> above remain convincing to me.
>
> I know you think it would be a nice way to visually identify the
> email, but the point is that you can have that (by having your
> mailreader add the prefix, if you really want it, based on the other
> headers) *without* us imposing it on the other list users.
>
> Information in a subject header cannot be removed by a client
> mailreader without loss of information; but a client can add anything
> it wants, because the user (presumably) knows if the client is doing
> that.
>
> I'm not really recommending that you add any text to the subject
> header, of course. A better solution would probably be for you to
> filter (based on those other headers) into a particular mail folder.
> I'm just pointing out that you *could* add the text yourself if you
> wanted to, without the mailing list having to do it for all users.
>
> Phrases like "too much to ask" don't really get at the heart of the
> matter. For example, if the list were to add the prefix, as you
> advocate, I could just as easily post saying "Is it too much to ask
> that this list not munge subject lines and take away valuable real
> estate?" :-)
>
> Best,
> -Karl
>
>
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