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RE: RE: Windows-bashing (WAS: Re: Can SVN share files and projects?)

From: Mark Phippard <MarkP_at_softlanding.com>
Date: 2004-08-17 19:47:24 CEST

"Ray Johnson" <Rayj@ingenio.com> wrote on 08/17/2004 01:38:44 PM:

>
> With a few more improvements to Subversion I think a lot more Windows
> users would switch!
>
> The biggest items needed to convert windows users (I think) are:
>
> * Support for exclusive locking of files. Many VSS users misuse this
> feature in my opinion, but if used judiciously it is a powerful feature
> lacking in Subversion.

This one is definitely coming. It should be the main feature of 1.2.

>
> * Support for shared files. That is the same file being located in more
> than one location in the repository. If you edit/commit in one location
> it is updated in the others. This was the most painful loss in
> functionality we experienced when switching to Subversion.

This certainly comes up a lot. I have never seen any indication, however,
that anyone plans to implement it. These things have a way of just
happening, however, when the right developer gets motivated.

>
> * Ok - for some folks a missing GUI was the biggest issue. But most of
> that complaining went away after a few months. However, our editorial
> department is still on VSS and integration with Dreamweaver is the
> biggest thing holding us back. (Though to be fair I haven't pursued
> this vigorously.) None the less, better GUI and integration tools only
> help.

Subversion will never have a GUI. There are, however, a number of
Subversion-related projects that provide or are workign on this. I assume
you are using TortoiseSVN already? If not you should be, it is awesome.
In this case of Dreamweaver, this might be solved when the locking support
is implemented, as you should then be able to use the WebDAV support in
Dreamweaver. I was not aware that VSS worked with Dreamweaver. I have
previously used PVCS, and Dreamweaver was the only major tool not
integrated with. AFAIK, this is because Dreamweaver decided to go the
WebDAV route, and does not support the SCC integration that VSS and other
Windows tools use.

>
> Other than that - Subversion is FAR FAR better than VSS. I'm sure some
> focus on win32 issues would compel many thousands of VSS users to
> switch.

None of these issues, other than a Windows-specific GUI, are win32 issues.
 There are just general SCM issues that anyone on any platform can desire.

Mark

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