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RE: FW: Subversion 1.0.1 Win32 version

From: Jan Evert van Grootheest <j.grootheest_at_euronext.nl>
Date: 2004-03-25 15:55:49 CET

You may actually want to check Tinderbox (from the mozilla project).
Tinderbox is their implementation to make automated builds. One of its
features (if I understood correctly) is that it allows you to add a 'client'
that performs the build when you like it (i.e. your idea of 'night') and
returns the results to the server. That's about all I know about it, so i
might be wrong. I have no experience with it.
Mozilla uses it to create daily builds. I don't know if they use it to
create releases, but it wouldn't surprise me.

-- Jan Evert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kfogel@collab.net [SMTP:kfogel@collab.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:17 PM
> To: Perry E. Metzger
> Cc: Ulrich Eckhardt; users@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: FW: Subversion 1.0.1 Win32 version
>
> "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> writes:
> > In the NetBSD project, we have set up an automated build system for
> > binaries, so when we do a branch or tag, or even just day to day,
> > people can always get fresh binaries. I'd happily help with such a
> > thing for Subversion.
>
> That's a very welcome offer! Could you help organizationally as well
> as technically?
>
> It'd be *great* to have binary builds be an automatic part of the
> release process, but just haven't had time to work much on it. If
> there were some arrangement whereby we could just hand The System a
> source tarball and get the appropriate set of binaries out, that would
> be a huge win. "The System" would be some combination of human and
> automated processes -- of course I'm not expecting a total lack of
> human involvement, but the more automated, the better.
>
> Organizationally, what's needed is someone to come up with a list of
> the platforms we do binaries for, then match those with volunteers
> equipped to produce the binaries. During a release, this person would
> keep track that the binaries actually get produced within a set amount
> of time (send out reminders when necessary, organize backup
> volunteers, etc). They'd have Download Manager role at tigris.org, in
> order to put direct, local links to the binaries from
> http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html.
>
> (IMHO, it'd be good for this to be completely separate from the
> Release Management process. RM is just about getting the vetted
> source tarball out the door. Binaries are about turning that source
> into executables. Best to distribute the load and not burden the RM
> with additional responsibilities, when a clean separation is
> possible.)
>
> > I think it is very important to the success of an open source project
> > that people know they can depend on the software, and knowing you can
> > always get your hands on binaries with bug fixes in them is part of
> > that.
>
> Agreed.
>
> Considering the laissez faire approach we've had up till now, our
> binaries have come out surprisingly regularly. But the system's
> always been fragile & unpredictable in scheduling, and our coverage
> hasn't been great.
>
> I wasn't sure if you meant you could volunteer to produce binaries for
> some platforms, or to help organize a general binary producing effort,
> or both. If you don't have time for the larger task, that's totally
> understandable. But I do think we'll need someone to take ownership,
> if we want the situation to improve.
>
> -Karl
>
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