I think perhaps that Windows users are simply unclear as to why a binary
version has not been released for this platform, and most importantly, why
there's no idea about when this might be available.
The Windows installer issue is a little different, as it does require an
expensive software package (VC++) to build, so not everyone who would like
to build it can build it. There are a lot of Windows users out there, and
if the most helpful answer they get when trying to work with a new piece of
software is "claim your money back", well, that's really going to help
encourage people to switch to it.
I think it's important to encourage people: without a large user base, it
seems that much of the developers' time will have been in vain. And there's
a lot of (IMHO unjustified) negative comments about Subversion as it is (see
Ben Collins-Sussman's "Anti-FUD" document).
To Ulrich: could you maybe indicate which specific messages regarding the
1.0.0 release you're referring to, or at least the search query for the
mailing list archives? I tried for example "win32 1.0.1 available" as a
query (and several other variants), and got back a hell of a lot of noise...
By being more specific, I got less results, but didn't seem to find the sort
of definitive answer you seem to be aware of.
I am in the category of Windows users that wants to see Subversion succeed,
to be able to recommend it, to use it, and contribute whatever I can. I
unfortunately don't have the resources to build it. I don't expect a
volunteer to drop everything and compile so that I can immediately install
the software, although it'd be nice if someone could maybe give an idea
about availability. I should add that I'm not an ignorant GUI-fan, I'd like
to get more into Unix/Linux systems, but as yet have not had the time to get
into that correctly.
Perhaps if it's so easy to build, some users are confused as to why the
appointed release manager has taken over a week to do so. Hopefully, even
if no software can be made available, we might at least have some idea as to
what the hold up is (if it's technical), and when we can expect a new
version. After all, 1.0.1 is supposed to add features and fix bugs, so
perhaps lots of people aren't wanting to waste their time installing
something only to reinstall the upgrade shortly after.
From: Ulrich Eckhardt [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: 24 March 2004 12:26
Subject: Re: Subversion 1.0.1 Win32 version
Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> Daniel Duarte Tomas Conceicao <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> > When will it be available?
> I have the same question.
I assume the answer didn't change since the release of 1.0.0. Search the
> The binaries are a bit overdue.
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