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Re: geekyness and ESR's recent tome

From: GreyGeek <jkreps_at_neb.rr.com>
Date: 2004-03-02 19:34:36 CET

On Tuesday 02 March 2004 10:18 am, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> John Peacock <jpeacock@rowman.com> writes:
> >> The second experience was on my MDK 9.2.1 box at home.
> >> Download source.
> >> ./configure gives an error which cannot be resolved without
> >> rewriting configure.in. Not going that route.
> >
> > To be honest, this is not a very helpful report, since you don't say
> > what the error was. I have always been very happy with the speed by
> > which I can build from source (with various distros). If there is
> > something that you are seeing with ./configure, tell us so we can fix
> > it.

The 'error' is in using tarballs in the 21st century. It's like still
starting your car with a hand crank and spark adjust. It's been my
observation that compiling tarballs was very reliable two or three years ago.
I usually had an 80-90% success rate. Now, that rate is 10-20% because so
many apps are depending on distro specific versions of libraries and when one
tries to downgrade or upgrade to that specific version cascading
dependencies and conflicts arise. At some point you throw up your hands
and say forget it.

Just as an indication of how weird it is getting... I was unable to install
Subversion with MDK 9.2 specific rpms, but I was able to install RedHat rpms
on my MDK 9.2 box (I needed to overcome only 6 conflicts which required a
total of NINE RH rpms to resolve) and get Subversion running. But, as
Fedora, MDK, SUSE, etc., continues down their paths the divergency between
their libraries will make this cross-over less and less likely to succeed.

> FYI, on NetBSD, the steps to build subversion, and all its
> dependencies if you don't have them, from source, are:

FYI, I don't run NetBSD and probably won't ever do so.


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