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Re: Babylon toolbar

From: Andy Levy <andy.levy_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:12:55 -0400

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 08:15, Arthur Schwarz <aschwarz1309_at_att.net> wrote:
> This goes back to the comment about clearly marking advertisements. As much
> as I like and enjoy TortoiseSVN the statements stating that Carolyn Hogan's
> actions are her responsibility seem to be self-serving. Her actions were
> made on the assumption that since the button was there and not otherwise
> marked, that it was the intent of TortoiseSVN to have users click the
> button.

This is preposterous. Only a small amount of critical/logical thinking
is required here, and taking a little responsibility for one's

The "Zoom Downloader" advertisement says nothing about TortoiseSVN on
it. It even says it's a *downloader*, not TortoiseSVN. Hover over the
link, and it clearly points to GOOGLE AD SERVICES. Click the link, and
it takes you this page:
. Nowhere on this page is TortoiseSVN mentioned. Hover over the little
blue triangle in the upper-right corner, and it clearly says
"AdChoices" and takes you directly to a Google page explaining that
it's an ad.

At the Zoom Downloader page, I'd be looking at the page and thinking
"weird, I wanted to download TortoiseSVN. Where is it?" and backing up
a click or two. Not clicking on the download links, assuming that it
*might* be what I want. But then again, I also don't click links in
email from my bank or credit card companies, instead going directly to
their sites - thus avoiding 99% of "phishing" scams.

Ultimately, you as the operator of your computer are responsible for
what gets downloaded & installed.

> From: Andy Levy <andy.levy_at_gmail.com>
> To: users_at_tortoisesvn.tigris.org
> Sent: Fri, April 13, 2012 3:33:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Babylon toolbar
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 17:33, Carolyn Hogan <deckhogan_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> I needed to update TortoiseSVN so I downloaded the latest version.
>> However, by mistake, I first downloaded the Zoom Downloader because the
>> Download button was so prominent. I then started to install it but cancelled
>> when I realized that I was installing the wrong thing. I then installed
>> TortoiseSVN.
>> After downloading and reopening Firefox, I found that the Babylon toolbar
>> had been installed. It had either attached itself to the Zoom Downloader
>> download or the TortoiseSVN download. Either way, I thought you should know
>> that I picked it up on your site.
> There is no "Zoom downloader" required for TortoiseSVN, and the TSVN
> installers are clean. You didn't read carefully and clicked an
> advertisement that's positioned above the download buttons, and the ad
> content cannot be controlled by the operators of the site. You did not
> "pick it up" on the site, you intentionally clicked on a link,
> downloaded a program and installed it.
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