Re: Concerning history button

Molle Bestefich wrote:
>>> * I'm a bit annoyed by having to click one more time now than before
>>>(it all adds up...), and
>>
>>Click on combo, click on entry = 2 clicks
>>Click on history, double-click on entry. Does a double click count as an
>>extra click?
>
> Yes, a double click counts as two clicks.

Or for the most recent item: click on history, click on OK. But enough
of this. Counting mouse clicks is not really getting us far.

> Dialogs that popup and then disappear again are confusing.
> If it has so little purpose that a combo box can do it's job, IMHO a
> combo box should do it's job.
>
> (If you stick to wanting a button because of 508 or MS standards, the
> button should at least invoke a popup menu, not an entire dialog.)

There is precedent for small dialogs.
Word->Insert->Break
Thunderbird->File->Rename

Combos are great for selecting things, but selecting *and* inserting on
OnChange() is the issue here.

>>There were lots of arguments on that thread. The one against combo boxes
>>is that its behaviour is non-standard/non-intuitive.
>
> The complaint was of an extremely technical and hypothetic nature.
> I've never seen a real user actually complain about this.

I'm a real user and I have raised it before (for the reason given above).

> Stefan chose to use OnChange() to paste text instead of a
> "paste" button as MS standards would have him.

Then you are back to an extra click. Also you have an extra button on
the commit dialog, something Stefan was keen to avoid.

>>> * It seems to me that standardized GUIs would layout the control on
>>>the right-hand, not the left-hand side.
>>
>>Curious. It was originally on the right and someone complained that a
>>standardized GUI would put it on the left.
>
> I think I've actually *never* seen dropdowns occur on the left-hand
> side of their associated controls. Who said that?

The button, not the drop-down. Putting it on the left makes it more
visible I think. I don't know - I already know it's there so I can't
tell what's best.

> Why?
> * It degrades the user experience.
No, it degrades *your* experience. No-one else has complained about it.

> * The proposal leading to it's implementation was, while rhetorically
> perfect, completely irrelevant from a user's point of view.

I think we can credit Stefan with being able to think for himself,
rather than reacting blindly to the last proposal put forward. There
were suggestions for changing the combo behaviour, and a suggestion for
using a separate dialog. As Stefan is the (only) one doing the coding he
gets to choose.

Simon

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