Hi Steve,
> You just installed the CMS - sure it's only 100K. Wait a little while
> and it will grow.
By about 1K per FAQ. Since we won't allow users to ask questions anymore,
there is presumably not going to be an exponential growth.
> > > And since Lübbe only has a dialup connection, that would leave the
> > > whole backup stuff to me...
> >
> > I feel my dial up connection breaking down while downloading 100K...
>
> I hear sarcasm here.
Yes :-)
Do you know why? You dismissing suggestions based on wrong assumptions. When
I read this kind of stuff when I just want to switch off my PC and go out
for a walk with my dog, I feel kind of pi**ed.
Examples:
- You're assuming that I want to edit our docs in the CMS. You tell
everybody you don't like it, but you didn't discuss it beforehand. I never
suggested that, because I don't like it as well.
- You're assuming that I'll backup from home. Who told you that? What's
going to happen if I'm on vacation? No, there are better solutions.
- We never backed up our database content on berlios.de (OK, I did, but you
don't know that I did), but suddenly you're bloating around that sourceforge
is not backing up our data and you make it sound like we have to backup
gigabytes to our home PCs.
- ...
> > My suggestion:
> > tigris: repository, mailing lists and a download mirror for
> the msi files.
>
> Why do we need a download mirror? See, *that's* one of the reason I
> really hate having stuff on more than one hoster.
We don't need a download mirror at all. I'd place all the downloads on
sourceforge. The download mirror on tigris is for you only, because it
sounds like you don't like the sourceforge option at all.
> > sourceforge: main download site, issue tracker, CMS
> containing FAQ and
>
> We already switched the download server once. And now, if people want
> to download an older version (for whatever reason), they have to
> search for it and search for it in different places (if they ever find
> what they want). If we just kept the installers on tigris.org, we
> wouldn't have that problem.
I wonder how many people will be searching for pre 1.1.7 releases? The
current release (1.1.7) can be found on sourceforge and on berlios.de now.
> > You were complaining about complicated file release procedures on
> > sourceforge / berlios. Today I mirrored the 1.1.7 release
> on sourceforge
> > in 20 minutes of which I spent 10 downloading and uploading the msi
> > files, because each ftp upload connection seemed to be limited to
> > 30K/second. The other 10 were spent clicking and setting properties.
>
> Ten minutes just for a release? Honestly, that's 8 minutes more than I
> need on tigris.org: Uploading the files (not counted), right-click on
> the file link, choose "copy link location", open the html-file of the
> download page, select the 'old' links in there and hit Ctrl-V to
> replace it with the new link.
Steve It seems like you don't want to understand me. I was talking about a
*complete* release, counting download time for msi files from berlios,
upload time for msi and language packs and setting the properties on ~20
uploaded files. Everything totaled up to 20 minutes. If I subtract the time
waiting for the download of the three msi installes from berlios.de to
finish (around five minutes), before I could upload them to sourceforge, I
end up with 12-17 minutes in total.
If I only upload 2 msi files, not counting the upload time like you did, I
also need two minutes.
I was about to write something sarcastic again, but snipped it :-)
How long does the entire release take you, including build time? How much is
the manual 'upload & modify settings' time compared to that? If you just
have to paste a few strings into an automation script that does the job for
you, how much would that become?
Cheers
- Lübbe
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