Russel Winder <russel@russel.org.uk> wrote on 07/20/2005 03:55:18 AM:
> Clearly this is a package maintainer thing so it is really down to the
> Subclipse management and the JavaHL people to negotiate with the
> Subversion package maintainers to get things organized sensibly.
Subclipse "management"? I got a chuckle out of this. Also, there are no
"JavaHL people". JavaHL is an official part of the Subversion project. So
the "JavaHL people" are just the Subversion devs. The problem is that
they do not view binary packages as part of their "domain". In fairness,
they have done a lot of work to make JavaHL easy to build and that is
starting to encourage the downstream maintainers to support it. There are
now Debian packages that support JavaHL, and the RedHat RPM can be tweaked
to support it. As I understand things, a big part of the problem is that
to build JavaHL you have to have Java, and most distros will not provide
packages for anything that requires Java because of the whole open source
issue. That is also starting to get better as some open source Java
compilers, such as the Eclipse compiler, have started to emerge.
The next problem is that we cannot just build and distribute a JavaHL
library for Linux ourselves, at least not easily. The way Subversion is
built there are just too many dependent libraries. It might be possible
to bundle all of them, but doing do in a way that does not cause other
problems seems unlikely. The JavaHL library can be built statically, but
as I understand things from previous posts, the way that Java loads a
library via JNI somehow "ignores" that (uses ldd?) and forces the
dependencies to be loaded dynamically.
Ideally, we could build the JavaHL library statically, so that we knew we
had all of the dependecies we needed, and then we could somehow do some
magic in Java that would let that library be loaded, as a static library.
If that could be done, then we could probably include a Linux binary.
Mark
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