Re: bad subversion-1.2.0-1.rhel3.i386.rpm

On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Max Bowsher wrote:

> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:28:32 +0100
> From: Max Bowsher <maxb@ukf.net>
> To: David Summers <david-dated-1121207302.941347@summersoft.fay.ar.us>
> Cc: dev@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: bad subversion-1.2.0-1.rhel3.i386.rpm
>
> David Summers wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 kfogel@collab.net wrote:
>>
>>> "Richard Andrews" <randrews@transzap.com> writes:
>>>> David and Developers at Subversion.tigris.org
>>>>
>>>> I took a look at the rpm changelog and sure enough it is stated right at
>>>> the top that you are dropping support for the BDB backend on this rpm.
>>>>
>>>> I am fairly new to Linux (have had considerable SCO and HPUX
>>>> experience in the past) and did not know to view this. I don't know if
>>>> this was a newbie mistake or not but it was confusing to me when the
>>>> Subversion 1.2.0 release notes goes out of its way to state that
>>>> support for BDB is not going away and then find out that it was
>>>> dropped on purpose in the creation of this rpm. I also realize that the
>>>> summersoft download site is not part of Tigris but you do list/link to
>>>> this site for rpm downloads.
>>>>
>>>> I guess what I am trying to get at is if you think that this was just
>>>> a newbie mistake so be it, water under the bridge and all that.
>>>> However if there is a good chance that others might make the same
>>>> mistake that we made could there be some effort into putting up a more
>>>> overt warning for them and possibly save them the hours of
>>>> troubleshooting that we had to go through.
>>>
>>> You're right that the situation is bad -- very bad for people who have
>>> legacy BDB repositories and need to upgrade Subversion via RPM.
>>>
>>> I initially thought "How could we have let this happen?" Then I
>>> talked to Ben Collins-Sussman, who reminded me that David Summers (our
>>> RPM maintainer) posted a long time ago saying he was having trouble
>>> getting the RPMs to work with BDB, and asking for help. No one was
>>> able to help him, and he never found a way to get it working, so in
>>> frustration he finally decided to drop BDB support from the RPMs. I
>>> don't have the mail thread handy, but he warned us he was going to do
>>> that, and we had no better idea.
>>>
>>> So this isn't David's fault at all. We're just in a bad situation
>>> w.r.t. our RPMs now, and no one knows what to do. David, did you
>>> contact anyone at RedHat about these problems? Did (say) Joe Orton
>>> ever comment on it? I think he's pretty expert in RPM packaging, and
>>> goodness knows he's familiar with Subversion...
>>>
>>
>> Note that this is ONLY with the Redhat Enterprise Linux 3 version. All
>> the other RPMs I package still have BDB capability.
>>
>> Max Bowsher was interested in taking a look at it back a few weeks ago and
>> I gave him an account on my box but I have not heard from him yet. I
>> assume that he ran into the same problems I ran into and was not able to
>> solve it.
>
> Just ran into a sudden shortage of round tuits, as exams+graduation+moving
> out of college occurred.
>
> I actually got 90% of the way there before my attention was forcibly
> redirected, I think.
>
> I'll have another look at it.
>
> David, do you visit #svn-dev, and if so, what's your nick?
>

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