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Re: bad subversion-1.2.0-1.rhel3.i386.rpm

From: Max Bowsher <maxb_at_ukf.net>
Date: 2005-07-08 01:28:32 CEST

David Summers wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 kfogel@collab.net wrote:
>
>> "Richard Andrews" <randrews@transzap.com> writes:
>>> David and Developers at Subversion.tigris.org
>>>
>>> I took a look at the rpm changelog and sure enough it is stated right at
>>> the top that you are dropping support for the BDB backend on this rpm.
>>>
>>> I am fairly new to Linux (have had considerable SCO and HPUX
>>> experience in the past) and did not know to view this. I don't know if
>>> this was a newbie mistake or not but it was confusing to me when the
>>> Subversion 1.2.0 release notes goes out of its way to state that
>>> support for BDB is not going away and then find out that it was
>>> dropped on purpose in the creation of this rpm. I also realize that the
>>> summersoft download site is not part of Tigris but you do list/link to
>>> this site for rpm downloads.
>>>
>>> I guess what I am trying to get at is if you think that this was just
>>> a newbie mistake so be it, water under the bridge and all that.
>>> However if there is a good chance that others might make the same
>>> mistake that we made could there be some effort into putting up a more
>>> overt warning for them and possibly save them the hours of
>>> troubleshooting that we had to go through.
>>
>> You're right that the situation is bad -- very bad for people who have
>> legacy BDB repositories and need to upgrade Subversion via RPM.
>>
>> I initially thought "How could we have let this happen?" Then I
>> talked to Ben Collins-Sussman, who reminded me that David Summers (our
>> RPM maintainer) posted a long time ago saying he was having trouble
>> getting the RPMs to work with BDB, and asking for help. No one was
>> able to help him, and he never found a way to get it working, so in
>> frustration he finally decided to drop BDB support from the RPMs. I
>> don't have the mail thread handy, but he warned us he was going to do
>> that, and we had no better idea.
>>
>> So this isn't David's fault at all. We're just in a bad situation
>> w.r.t. our RPMs now, and no one knows what to do. David, did you
>> contact anyone at RedHat about these problems? Did (say) Joe Orton
>> ever comment on it? I think he's pretty expert in RPM packaging, and
>> goodness knows he's familiar with Subversion...
>>
>
> Note that this is ONLY with the Redhat Enterprise Linux 3 version. All
> the other RPMs I package still have BDB capability.
>
> Max Bowsher was interested in taking a look at it back a few weeks ago and
> I gave him an account on my box but I have not heard from him yet. I
> assume that he ran into the same problems I ran into and was not able to
> solve it.

Just ran into a sudden shortage of round tuits, as exams+graduation+moving
out of college occurred.

I actually got 90% of the way there before my attention was forcibly
redirected, I think.

I'll have another look at it.

David, do you visit #svn-dev, and if so, what's your nick?

Max

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