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Re: svn status proposal

From: Branko Čibej <brane_at_xbc.nu>
Date: 2001-09-24 21:10:14 CEST

Ben Collins-Sussman wrote:

>Branko =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=C8ibej?= <brane@xbc.nu> writes:
>> 1. Show local modifications only: "svn st" (outputs in 2-column format)
>> 2. Show the status of all version-controlled files in the WC: "svn st
>> --verbose" (outputs in 4-column format)
>> 3. Show status of WC and server, including the changes "svn up" would
>> make: "svn st --update" (touches the network, implies --verbose).
>Karl and I don't think that the -v and -u flags should imply one
>another in *any* direction. I don't want my 'svn st -u' to show me
>every single file under version control. I want it to show me only
>"interesting" entries -- only those with local mods and/or
>Please, independent of how many output formats there may be, let's not
>comingle these switches.

As far as I'm concerned, we can compromise on this issue. :-)

Which gives us another table:

            | long format | show all | query server
no switches | | |
--verbose | * | * |
--update | * | | *

and "-vu" is a union of the last two lines.

>>What I /haven't/ yet seen in this discussion is a good argument
>>/against/ havng a short format, except "consistency".
>Hmmm. Maybe Karl can address this issue... he's done quite a bit of
>reading on UI design, and is trying to reward "habituation". Karl?

Habituation has many faces. Catering to it definitely doesn't mean that
you should limit yourself to a single output format. I'd sooner argue,
for example, that "svn up" should accept a --verbose switch to produce
output in the same format as "svn st --verbose", and that "svn st"
without switches should produce output in the same format as "svn up"
(which last, by the way, is exactly what I /am/ saying). Command-line
(not only Unix!) users /are/ used to having options that change the
output format of a command, and this is generally perceived as being a
Good Thing.

Brane �ibej   <brane_at_xbc.nu>            http://www.xbc.nu/brane/
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