What about Evolution?
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/index.shtml
I've heard about it... but never tried it.
BOb
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Weintraub [mailto:qazwart_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:21 PM
> To: Bob Archer
> Cc: Mark Phippard; Toby Thain; Hilco Wijbenga;
users_at_subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows
>
> The big problem with Windows is the anti-virus software which checks
> each and every file copied onto the system from the network.
>
> There is no alternative to Exchange clients except Microsoft clients.
> Our office has IMAP open which means I can use Thunderbird or even
> Apple's Mail client. (I too have a Mac at home. It is a six year old
> Mac Mini and it runs Eclipse faster than my Windows machine even
> though it is running over the corporate VPN). Most corporations
> wouldn't allow such access. Plus, this doesn't take care of the
> corporate calendars under Exchange.
>
> I use Google's Calendar Sync to sync my Outlook calendar to a Google
> Calendar. However, I need to keep Outlook as my default mail
> application and I found I have to keep it open at all times.
> Otherwise, the Google Sync process will have to open it.
>
> I'm trying to convince the Tech Service people to drop Exchange in
> favor of Google Apps. No such luck.
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Bob Archer <Bob.Archer_at_amsi.com>
wrote:
> > This thread is drifting a bit off topic. But, I guess that happens.
> >
> > I actually bought a personal Mac to use at home to learn a new way
of
> > doing things. I never disliked Windows as much as I do now. But, it
pays
> > the bills. The Mac is so much faster and stable. Svn flies on it.
> >
> > I'm surprised, is there no Linux mail client that will connect to an
> > exchange server? I know that you could run Open Office and deal with
the
> > MS Office documents.
> >
> > BOb
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: David Weintraub [mailto:qazwart_at_gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:45 PM
> >> To: Bob Archer
> >> Cc: Mark Phippard; Toby Thain; Hilco Wijbenga;
> > users_at_subversion.tigris.org
> >> Subject: Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Bob Archer <Bob.Archer_at_amsi.com>
> > wrote:
> >> > Great idea if you can do it. "Unfortunately" a few of us develop
for
> >> > ASP.Net using Visual Studio... which last I checked doesn't run
on
> >> > Linux. Oh well, maybe the VS 2010 will have a native Linux
version.
> > ;)
> >> >
> >>
> >> I left a Windows shop to get away from the Microsoft development
> >> world. I feel for you guys. We were doing .NET development. What a
> >> mess.
> >>
> >> I doubt that my company would abandon Exchange and Microsoft Office
> >> because the corporate people all use it. However, one smart guy
> >> reformatted his disk, downloaded Fedora and virtual box, and then
> >> loaded up Windows as a VM.
> >>
> >> Now, he has access to the corporate desktop via Windows, yet he
spends
> >> most of his days in the Linux world. He has no performance issues
with
> >> his PC.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking of doing the same, and then encouraging all the other
> >> developers to do the same.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Bob Archer <Bob.Archer_at_amsi.com>
> > wrote:
> >> > Great idea if you can do it. "Unfortunately" a few of us develop
for
> >> > ASP.Net using Visual Studio... which last I checked doesn't run
on
> >> > Linux. Oh well, maybe the VS 2010 will have a native Linux
version.
> > ;)
> >> >
> >> > Until then, it would be nice to see some performance improvements
> > for
> >> > the windows stack. When it the new .svn structure going to
happen?
> > Is
> >> > this slated for 1.6 or later?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks... this has been a great thread.
> >> >
> >> > BOb
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: David Weintraub [mailto:qazwart_at_gmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:56 AM
> >> >> To: Mark Phippard
> >> >> Cc: Toby Thain; Hilco Wijbenga; users_at_subversion.tigris.org
> >> >> Subject: Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks! This is the information I was looking for. I'm going to
try
> >> >> the CollabNet Desktop -- Eclipse Edition. I also know to make
sure
> >> >> that developers are using JavaHL (especially since we'd have to
> >> >> license SVNKit).
> >> >>
> >> >> We are going to be redoing our infrastructure. If we get rid of
> >> >> Microsoft Exchange and go with a more "Open" email and calendar
> >> >> provider, we wouldn't need Windows desktops for developers.
> > Instead,
> >> >> we could have Linux machines which seem much faster with
Eclipse.
> >> >>
> >> >> One of our developers took his desktop machine, installed
RedHat,
> > and
> >> >> then used an open VM to install Windows as a virtual machine. He
> > does
> >> >> his development in Linux and uses the Windows side for Outlook
and
> >> >> MS-Word. Maybe that's the way we should be going.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Mark Phippard
<markphip_at_gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM, David Weintraub
> > <qazwart_at_gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> I'm attempting to get this running on my machine. This is a
dual
> >> > core
> >> >> >> Pentium with a gigabyte of memory. Checking out in Subversion
> > via
> >> >> >> Eclipse Ganymede using the most recent copy of Subclipse and
> >> > running
> >> >> >> SVNkit took almost 13 minutes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> A similar task on Linux via the command line takes about
five.
> >> >> >> However, checking out from CVS was not much faster. It took
> > about
> >> > 10
> >> >> >> minutes. This is a big project (probably too big).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I've tried a merge, and Eclipse crashed (probably needs more
> > memory
> >> >> >> for its Java process. I'm attempting to try again.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What I am trying to find out is who uses Windows
> >> > XP/Eclipse/Subversion
> >> >> >> combination and whether they also have performance issues. Do
> > you
> >> > use
> >> >> >> Subversive or Subclipse? Do you use SVNKit or JavaHL (which
> > doesn't
> >> >> >> seem available on my installation)?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'd say most users use it on Windows. JavaHL is preferred.
This
> >> > Wiki
> >> >> > page explains how to get it working:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://subclipse.tigris.org/wiki/JavaHL
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Subclipse has to do more than a command line checkout as
Eclipse
> >> > does
> >> >> > some stuff and the svn status of all items is calculated and
> > cached.
> >> >> > So it is normal for it to be slower than the command line.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For merge you should use CollabNet Desktop. This
includes/works
> >> > with
> >> >> Subclipse.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://desktop-eclipse.open.collab.net/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mark Phippard
> >> >> > http://markphip.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> --
> >> >> David Weintraub
> >> >> qazwart_at_gmail.com
> >> >>
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