On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Andy Levy wrote:
> Why would you have to license SVNKit? If you're a "consumer"
> of it, or distributing an Open Source project that uses it,
> it's Open Source. If you want to integrate it into a non-Open
> Source application, then you have to license it.
>
> http://svnkit.com/licensing.html
The license could be read in two ways:
* If you have a proprietary commercial application, and you
redistribute SVNKit with your application, you need to pay a licensing
fee.
* If you used SVNKit while developing your proprietary commercial
application, you need to pay a licensing fee.
I read it the second way because it doesn't make much sense to read it
the first way for open source applications. Most open source licenses
wouldn't allow the project to have a proprietary component like SVNKit
to be distributed as part of the application.
Besides, if the first example this was the case, how many licenses
would TMate Software be selling? Only commercial proprietary
applications that were written in Java and needed access to Subversion
would have to pay a licensing fee. So, you are pretty much limiting it
to Java based, proprietary IDEs.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Andy Levy <andy.levy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:56, David Weintraub <qazwart_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks! This is the information I was looking for. I'm going to try
>> the CollabNet Desktop -- Eclipse Edition. I also know to make sure
>> that developers are using JavaHL (especially since we'd have to
>> license SVNKit).
>
> Why would you have to license SVNKit? If you're a "consumer" of it, or
> distributing an Open Source project that uses it, it's Open Source. If
> you want to integrate it into a non-Open Source application, then you
> have to license it.
>
> http://svnkit.com/licensing.html
>
> I just checked; I'm using JavaHL, and it's the only option I have
> installed. I have Eclipse 3.4.1 and the current Subclipse installed. I
> can't complain about the performance but I'm sure my WCs & projects
> are much smaller than yours.
>
>> We are going to be redoing our infrastructure. If we get rid of
>> Microsoft Exchange and go with a more "Open" email and calendar
>> provider, we wouldn't need Windows desktops for developers. Instead,
>> we could have Linux machines which seem much faster with Eclipse.
>>
>> One of our developers took his desktop machine, installed RedHat, and
>> then used an open VM to install Windows as a virtual machine. He does
>> his development in Linux and uses the Windows side for Outlook and
>> MS-Word. Maybe that's the way we should be going.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Mark Phippard <markphip_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM, David Weintraub <qazwart_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm attempting to get this running on my machine. This is a dual core
>>>> Pentium with a gigabyte of memory. Checking out in Subversion via
>>>> Eclipse Ganymede using the most recent copy of Subclipse and running
>>>> SVNkit took almost 13 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> A similar task on Linux via the command line takes about five.
>>>> However, checking out from CVS was not much faster. It took about 10
>>>> minutes. This is a big project (probably too big).
>>>>
>>>> I've tried a merge, and Eclipse crashed (probably needs more memory
>>>> for its Java process. I'm attempting to try again.
>>>>
>>>> What I am trying to find out is who uses Windows XP/Eclipse/Subversion
>>>> combination and whether they also have performance issues. Do you use
>>>> Subversive or Subclipse? Do you use SVNKit or JavaHL (which doesn't
>>>> seem available on my installation)?
>>>
>>> I'd say most users use it on Windows. JavaHL is preferred. This Wiki
>>> page explains how to get it working:
>>>
>>> http://subclipse.tigris.org/wiki/JavaHL
>>>
>>> Subclipse has to do more than a command line checkout as Eclipse does
>>> some stuff and the svn status of all items is calculated and cached.
>>> So it is normal for it to be slower than the command line.
>>>
>>> For merge you should use CollabNet Desktop. This includes/works with Subclipse.
>>>
>>> http://desktop-eclipse.open.collab.net/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Mark Phippard
>>> http://markphip.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> qazwart_at_gmail.com
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