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Re: x86 is stone age, how about moving along ?

From: Andy Levy <andy.levy_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:01:54 -0500

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:23, Mircea Zahan <mzahan_at_adaptive.ro> wrote:
> Well now, for someone proficient with a programming language,
> recompiling sources for just another flavor of Windows should be
> a task of what ... a few minutes ?

Plus testing. Or do you think that person would be comfortable with
releasing binaries and then answering any/all bugs that arise with
"well, I didn't bother testing"? These aren't anonymous releases.

Are you certain that there's nothing that would need to be tweaked in
the source code for a 64-bit environment?

I don't know whether it's possible to compile Windows 64-bit binaries
on 32-bit Windows. If it's not, then it becomes a matter of cost as
well - if the volunteers who are doing this don't have 64-bit
hardware, they'll have to buy a system. And by extension, a copy of
64-bit Windows too. So now it's a matter of at least $500 for a
single-purpose machine to compile a few releases a year on a
*volunteer* basis.

Did 64-bit Windows change significantly between Windows XP x64 and
future releases (2003 Server, 2008 Server, Vista 64)? If so, which
releases do you actually support?

> I am not proficient with C(++?)
> but I do posess knowledge in Delphi. So it happens to know a
> little about the big picture.
>
> I don't think it's a matter of time or cost, it's just a matter of wanting
> to do it.

No here will stop you from doing it. The present Windows volunteers
have not yet seen a need to do so. I have yet to see anyone post a
reason for doing it beyond "I don't want a 32-bit application
infecting my pure 64-bit environment" on this mailing list. The 32-bit
client works fine on 64-bit Windows, so where is the true value in
taking the time & expense of recompiling? How many people are still
using 32-bit JVMs on 64-bit OSes (quite a few, I imagine)?

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Levy" <andy.levy_at_gmail.com>
> To: "Mircea Zahan" <mzahan_at_adaptive.ro>
> Cc: <users_at_subversion.tigris.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: x86 is stone age, how about moving along ?
>
>
>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 05:32, Mircea Zahan <mzahan_at_adaptive.ro> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everybody,
>>>
>>> Is there any chance for you to publish x64 version of Subversion's
>>> binaries
>>> for Windows?
>>> Please don't reply with something like "get the sources and compile it",
>>> not
>>> everyone is proficient
>>> with C programming/compiling.
>>>
>>> I know the existing binaries do work on x64, but I want to have a pure
>>> x64
>>> environment.
>>> At this very moment the SVN server is the only x86 application running on
>>> our server.
>>>
>>> Every major server of any kind already has x64 binaries, yours doesn't.
>>> It's
>>> dissapointing for
>>> such a marvelous piece of software.
>>
>> Binary packages, especially the ones for Windows and all the ones not
>> offered by companies, are done by *volunteers*. Their schedules may
>> not allow for it, or they may not have access to the required systems
>> to do it.
>>
>> If you're looking for a company to do it, they need to see a financial
>> incentive for it. CollabNet sells support for Subversion and they
>> haven't (apparently) seen enough reason to justify the cost yet.
>

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