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Re: Autoverioning Advice Needed

From: Kyle Kline <kyle.kline_at_gmail.com>
Date: 2007-03-16 15:39:15 CET

Just to second that notion -- I spent a lot of time on the DAV option
because I assumed the group of users I was targeting (non-IT folks) would
not like TortoiseSVN.

After some side issues with the DAV client I was using, I piloted Tortoise
with one of them and found that they actually preferred it, after I showed
them the basics & the extra stuff they could do with it. We still have some
users though using the native DAV support in Mac OS X just fine, since the
same repo can support both.

That being said, what is true for some is not true for others, so you are
correct to explore both options. Let me know if you need any assistance
with WebDrive, I had a fully running installation with
Apache/WebDAV/WebDrive at my company.

-Kyle

On 3/16/07, Robert Denton <robert@headsprout.com> wrote:
>
> Andy, that is a good point and a valid suggestion. Thanks for the
> contribution, the answer is: No, I am NOT certain Tortoise will not
> work. It may prove to be the case that the non-tech users will be
> fine with TSVN, and it may be the case that they will crave the same
> options that your users enjoy. However I have been charged with the
> task of looking at the options so I wanted to see where WebDrive
> would get me.
>
> As it turns out I am having trouble even getting Webdrive to connect
> to my repo anyway. I am thinking perhaps it is having trouble with
> the fact that I enforce ssl and that regular http will not work on my
> repo. I am not sure though. I am tempted to call the South River
> folks to see if they can help but the first person I spoke to there
> had never heard of Subversion so I do not hold out much hope.
>
> Robert
>
> On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:17 PM, Andy Levy wrote:
>
> > On 3/15/07, Robert Denton <robert@headsprout.com> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I am hoping someone here can advise me on how best to implement
> >> autoversioning for my environment. The best thing you could do for me
> >> immediately is point me to a really informative read discussing
> >> subversion/webdav/autoversioning/windows clients, et al.
> >>
> >> Any good links you can recommend? I have looked through the nightly
> >> red bean book, and it is a good start, but I want to read more in
> >> depth before I delve too much deeper...
> >>
> >> What I am looking at is basically this:
> >>
> >> We run subversion 1.3 on a windows/apache server and we have limited
> >> it's availability to the techies in our company. We now have decided
> >> to move the entire company away from VSS to this. The problem is that
> >> the rest of the company is decidedly NOT tech savvy so we need a way
> >> for them to use subversion without getting flustered or confused, or
> >> breaking our repo.
> >>
> >> Currently the techs use TortoiseSVN. We were hoping for something a
> >> little more seemless. We enforce locking on all files, including
> >> text, doc, etc, so whatever solution I go with needs to be able to
> >> lock a file automatically and unlock and commit the file
> >> automatically, as well as make sure that the user isn't looking at a
> >> non-updated collection of files.
> >
> > Are you certain that you can't distribute TSVN? Can you pilot it with
> > a few "regular" users and see if maybe you can avoid setting up
> > autoversioning?
> >
> > I considered autoversioning a long time ago, but in the end real log
> > messages from the committer won out (in addition to the other benefits
> > of using a regular client) over the little extra convenience that
> > autoversioning might have given me.
> >
> > I have non-developers using TSVN and after a little time showing them
> > the basics, they're saying "ok, I get it now" and they're on their
> > way. They like that they can see history and they can work on their
> > files at home, disconnected from the network. They understand that
> > using it is good for everyone.
> >
> > I have people in accounting and auditing departments asking me "can I
> > come to you in 4 months to get this set up for my whole department? We
> > *need* this and we'll gladly take these extra few steps to get all
> > this good functionality." They really like (among other things) that
> > they can see, right in TSVN, how much certain people are or aren't
> > using the system.
> >
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