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Re: Crazy idea? Remote SVN client for the Subversion-impaired

From: John Burwell <john.burwell.lists_at_galvnews.com>
Date: 2007-02-27 23:09:50 CET

It's not because they don't understand or are somehow otherwise
deficient, they just don't care. They use tools such as computers to
do their work; computers are not the work itself, as it might be for
a developer. If there's anything to differentiate "us" and "them" it
would be that they expect computers to stay out of their way.
Subversion is a huge interference to someone who just wants the
computer to help them create something.

There are other workflows designed with designers in mind. Maybe
Subversion just isn't right for the "subversion-impaired." Other
tools do exist that might better fit the needs of the users in this
case.

It's a poor craftsman who blames the tools, but a hammer is not a
paintbrush.

j

On Feb 27, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Kenneth Wood wrote:

> I, too, have seen great resistance, in my case by tech writers,
> to putting documents into any kind of source control system
> Yes, they develop documents just as coders develop
> code. But, they don't understand why "zipping up all
> my files and putting a copy on the shared drive" every
> day isn't a very good revision control process...
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Janine Sisk [mailto:janine@furfly.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:41 PM
>> To: users@subversion.tigris.org
>> Subject: Re: Crazy idea? Remote SVN client for the Subversion-
>> impaired
>>
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Jeff Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> It's not stupid. And these are not "developers". You
>> don't get it.
>>>> These users are Not Like Us.
>>>
>>> What... what do you think that a developer is, if it is not one who
>>> develops a document? It makes no difference whether that document is
>>> going to be rendered as HTML, compiled, or just read by someone
>>> else.
>>
>> I gotta throw in a word of support here. I sometimes work with
>> graphics people and the OP is right, they are not like us. They
>> don't think like us and they don't want to. I think you are all
>> vastly underestimating the immense resistance *some* graphic
>> designers have to anything that isn't part of their definition of the
>> creative process. Not all, of course, but I have seen this often
>> enough to have no trouble whatsoever envisioning the situation he is
>> in, and to sympathize.
>>
>> This may not make solving the problem any easier, but I just wanted
>> to say that I think you all (not just Jeff) are being unnecessarily
>> hard on the guy.
>>
>> janine
>>
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