Thanks for the all the clarifications!
On 2/10/06, Ryan Schmidt <subversion-2006Q1@ryandesign.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2006, at 18:30, N G wrote:
> >>> I have a developer type plan with a hosting service which allows me
> >>> to log
> >>> into the server through SSH and configure Apache server. However, I
> >>> don't
> >>> think they will allow me to install Subversion server on that
> >>> machine. I
> >>> don't know much about Apache yet, but Is it possible to install
> >>> just the
> >>> subversion mod on it without installing the Subversion server on the
> >>> machine. In other words, would the subversion mod pretty much
> >>> function as
> >>> the subversion server for me?
> >> There are several different ways to serve a repository. One is
> >> through the custom svnserve server. Another is through the
> >> mod_dav_svn Apache2 module.
> > So, I take it you disagree with Lares?
> I stand by what I said. But Lares isn't wrong either. Let's
> incorporate Lares's remarks here:
> >> <cut> would the subversion mod pretty much function as
> >> the subversion server for me?
> > Short answer, no.
> > Long answer, no.
> > The mod is just the http interface IIRC. You need to have svn on the
> > machine.
> "svn" is many things. So let's be very specific. When you download
> the Subversion source code and build it, you get the "svn" command
> line client program, the "svnadmin," "svnversion" and "svnlook"
> utility programs, the "svnserve" server program, and, if you ask it
> to, the "mod_dav_svn" Apache2 module. Each of these programs also
> link to a handful of Subversion libraries which this process will
> In Lares's remarks, "svn" then must mean the Subversion libraries,
> which, yes, must be present.
> >> If your hosting provider uses Apache2 (Apache1 won't work) and allows
> >> you to plug in custom modules and allows you to make custom entries
> >> in the httpd.conf (most hosting providers I know qualify for none of
> >> these), then you could use Apache to serve your repository. If they
> >> don't normally offer that, maybe ask them if they'd be willing to add
> >> it on their end, since it's a useful feature.
> > As far as I see, they I am allowed to edit httpd.conf, but not allowed
> > to even see the contents of htpasswd. I figure I'll deal with that
> > later since they do allow (through web interface) to set a password on
> > a directory served through Apache.
> >> If they won't, then they probably wouldn't be too keen on opening a
> >> port in the firewall and having the svnserve process running either.
> >> But you could possibly still make it work through svn+ssh protocol.
> > svn+ssh would actually be easier for me at this point, but wouldn't
> > that require me to install Subversion on that machine? I can't see how
> > they would be too happy with users installing stuff...
> If installed as root, all of Subversion's parts can go anywhere, for
> example into the OS's standard locations like /usr or /usr/local, and
> if your ISP were to provide Subversion, that's probably where they'd
> be. If your provider doesn't and won't provide it, you can compile it
> yourself in your home directory, since you said you have SSH access.
> Then the programs and libraries are in a location you specify with
> the --prefix parameter to the ./configure script, for example /home/
> you/programs or whatever. You could then use svnadmin to set up a
> repository on the server, and access it via svn+ssh. svn+ssh uses the
> SSH protocol, which you have access to, so there's no need for your
> provider to open any additional ports. And svn+ssh only starts the
> svnserve process when it's needed, and closes it again right away
> afterwards, so there wouldn't be another permanently-running process
> on the machine.
> The setup process for the various servers is described in the book.
> In particular if you want to try svn+ssh you might find the SSH
> Configuration Tricks section useful:
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