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RE: Shelving

From: Flanakin Michael C Ctr HQ OSSG/OMR <Michael.Flanakin.Ctr_at_Gunter.Af.Mil>
Date: 2005-12-05 14:13:10 CET

The main reason I like shelving is because I've been in numerous
situations where code changes need to be passed from one person to the
next or, due to project needs, you're required to stop working one task
to start another. Personally, I'd like to have a place to save these
changes without committing them. This is of course based on my VC
methodology - only commit completed, compilable code (say that 5xs
fast). Of course, the files could be saved locally, but then they risk
being accidentally deleted. I'd rather have all these changes in one
place, rather than risking rework. This way, any developer can pick up
where another left off, if need be.

I also don't completely agree with your opinion that it's a backup. I do
see what you mean, but it depends on how the shelves are used. For
instance, a team may have the C4 philosophy I use, but a developer may
want to commit their changes more frequently for a large code change.
Shelves can directly support that.

Whether you call them shelves or private branches, I could care less.
It's the capability that I think would be important to document.


-----Original Message-----
From: allan juul [mailto:allan@muly.dk]
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:38 AM
To: Flanakin Michael C Ctr HQ OSSG/OMR
Cc: users@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: Re: Shelving

Flanakin Michael C Ctr HQ OSSG/OMR wrote:
> I think it'd be best to have a separate root directory to distinguish
> the concept separately. In effect, I may want to shelve 3 files,
> whereas I would branch the entire repository. Or, would shelving the
> entire repository be the recommended practice, in this instance?
>>From what I remember, shelving (or private branching) isn't discussed
> the docs. Would it be beneficial to officially accept a "shelves"
> directory as a best practice and update the docs? I think it'd be nice

> to publicly announce the feature so those who are new to Svn (and even

> CM as a whole) can understand how it's done as well as understand the
> differences between branches and shelves. In my opinion, saying that
> shelves are branches is like saying that tags are branches (or
> vice-versa). Technically, they are; however, conceptually they are
> completely different. Again, just my opinion.
> Michael

i personally think "shelving" is perhaps the most overrated "feature" in
modern version control systems. i wouldn't even consider it a
"nice-to-have". AFAIU a "shelve" isn't even version controlled - it's
just a backup on the same server that happens to be your version control
system as well. therefore IMO a "shelve" is just a private unversioned

but if you really want a "shelving" "feature" i think that i agree in
you should name your root dir "shelves" or something like that.


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