I have not written in weeks, but I feel compeled to share as well (being a software developer myself).
I agree 99% with your statements Karl, except for the 'purview' remark. Using Subversion highlights the bug, although it is not within SVN's purview to rectify this. Just like API's, using SVN exposes limitations and malfunctions in other application layers -- and it is currently beyond your objectives to overthrow the Neon project to rectify this; currently, as Brane has expressed, the Neon dev's are first responsible. Should Neon chose to ignore it, then Neon would then provide a less-than-adequate app layer for SVN to utilize; and only then would it be reasonable for SVN to hijack the Neon project to rectify the bug :o) I obviously sympathize with Brane on this one.
With regards to the expectation for perfection, I am discouraged with Mr. Washburn's utopian expectations considering his [seemingly respectible] background and his geographical proximity to my own abode; but I digress :o)
Brane, you're not alone :o)
-----Original Message-----
From: kfogel@newton.ch.collab.net on behalf of kfogel@collab.net
Sent: Sun 2/20/2005 6:04 PM
To: Monks, Peter
Cc: Geoffrey A. Washburn; users@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: Re: Two windows bugs
"Monks, Peter" <peter.monks@vignette.com> writes:
> > I'm not sure passing the buck is the right solution here.
>
> So you're suggesting that the Subversion developers should support a
> piece of software (Neon) which they are in no way responsible for
> developing?
>
> If so, I'm having some Windows security issues that I'd like you to
> solve for me... ...and no buck passing, please. ;-)
Oy, oy, let's please not jump on Geoff :-).
I found his tone a bit blunt too, but his basic philosophy I agree
with. We, the Subversion developers, chose Subversion's dependencies.
A bug in a dependency that causes a bug in Subversion therefore falls
within our purview, if we want it to.
However, we can certainly choose to ignore it, as Geoff himself said,
and that's exactly what we're doing here. I have no problem with
that, and -- talk of "responsibility" notwithstanding -- Geoff clearly
has no problem with it either.
-Karl
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