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RE: Renaming files on win32

From: Gili <junk_at_bbs.darktech.org>
Date: 2004-12-21 20:55:32 CET

        No one is disputing the fact that Subversion should retain
filename-case. We are simply asking for better support for platforms
that do not support case sensitivity (as opposed to case-awareness or
case-preserving. The next step would involve making sure platforms that
are case-aware and platforms that are case-sensitive get along with
each other when they share a Subversion server.

        On the topic of case sensitivity, I personally favor
disallowing differentiation between multiple files solely based upon
their filename casing -- but that's just my subjective opinion (I don't
mind if others disagree). If we don't end up going this way, we would
still need to be proactive about ensuring that all platforms get along.

Gili

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:18 -0500, James FitzGibbon wrote:

>To not support case sensitive filenames on a platform that has them would
>render subversion useless for maintaining local changes to 3rd party source.
>
>If I load the sources for a Perl module into SVN, that pre-existing
>infrastructure
>for that module is going to assume that running the program "perl
>Makefile.PL" is
>going to produce the file "Makefile", which can then be parsed by "make".
>
>If the case was not preserved by subversion, all of this would break down
>(unless
>the OS goes to some incredible lengths to make it work properly, a la OS X).
>
>So while the textbook example of having {Test,test,TEST} in one directory
>might
>not be all that common, use of case sensitive filenames is. So long as that
>is the case, any cross-platform VC system is going to have to support case
>sensitive files.
>
>That doesn't mean that SVN couldn't be coaxed to DWIM in cases where the OS
>is case preserving but not case sensitive. I wouldn't want to see that
>behaviour
>on all platforms, because it would break my expected behaviour on *NIX.
>
>I also have to think that as computers move towards full and proper Unicode
>instead of ASCII that case sensitivity becomes less of an issue. After all,
>do asian languages have uppercase and lowercase (excl. Romanji)? Everything
>is just a bunch of code points, and to presume that one range of code points
>is logically equal to another same-sized range of code points is going to
>get
>you in trouble eventually.
>
>Regards
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: news [mailto:news@sea.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Norbert Unterberg
>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:04 PM
>To: users@subversion.tigris.org
>Subject: Re: Renaming files on win32
>
>kfogel@collab.net schrieb:
>
>> (Subversion itself pretty much had to be case-sensitive in the
>> repository, of course, in order to support case-sensitive platforms at
>> all.)
>
>Beeing a windows user, I always wanted to ask this:
>Do *ix users really rely on case sensitivy (in the sense that they store
>multiple files with just different case in the same direcotry, like Test,
>test, TEST) so much that subversion needs to support this? Is that common
>practice there?
>
>Norbert
>
>
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