Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Raymond wrote:
>
>
>>>Is there any clear and ordered process to install from rpm? I am
>>>running Fedora Core 1 and started from rpm -i
>>
>>The -easy- way is to download ALL of the Summersoft RPMs, sans the DB42
>>ancillary files, to an empty directory, rpm -ivh the db42 RPMs (rpm -ivh
>>db42-*.rpm), delete the db42 RPMs (rm -f db42-*.rpm) and then rpm -Uvh the
>>balance (rpm -Uvh *.rpm)
>
>
> the summersoft repo should not be used for anything -- it's just plain
> broken and violates the rules for a well-designed repository.
...
> if you go to the fedora rawhide repo, the latest supported apr rpms are
> only 0.9.4, so to supply allegedly FC1-compatible 0.9.5 rpms is
> meaningless. even www.apache.org lists 0.9.4 as the latest versions,
> so it's not clear where these 0.9.5 versions came from, but they're quite
> simply junk. by installing them, you are technically breaking your FC1
> system.
Let's be fair to David regarding this...he made SVN packages that
/worked/ on most versions of Red Hat, long before there were suitable
httpd and apr versions in the core system, and I've been gratefully
using them for about a year. It simply wasn't possible to work within
the framework of Red Hat and have a working Subversion--blame the
Subversion guys for sticking so close to the bleeding edge in their
library usage during development (if you're going to blame anyone).
You're quite right that David's RPMs are not drop-in replacements and do
not fit cleanly or easily into an existing system that uses Apache and
lots of related modules...it can be especially painful, if you use a
slightly custom Apache RPM (which I do). And you're right that now that
the necessary components are a part of Fedora, it's wise to use those if
you can. They will fit cleanly into Fedora and won't break other
components.
So, I think a more useful version of your message, Robert, might be:
Let's all thank David for his hard work maintaining the SVN RPMs so far,
and now that Fedora has begun including SVN in the development tree, he
can take a much deserved rest from the hassle of it all. The subversion
site ought to be updated to reflect that Fedora devel packages are
probably the most sane to use on Fedora Core 1 and Core 2 Testing systems.
Of course, for folks using older Red Hat systems, the Fedora Devel tree
is not a solution--rebuilding all of the necessary packages and
libraries for RH 7.x would like be a real bear and I'd readily pick
David's packages over tackling that task. So maybe David shouldn't take
a vacation just yet.
Just my .02. And I don't think I've thanked David for his RPMs lately,
so it seemed an appropriate time to do so. I'm still using them on our
systems (w/ Red Hat 9), though both will see an upgrade to Fedora pretty
soon.
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Received on Tue Mar 23 12:11:35 2004