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Re: Subversion advocacy

From: Ben Collins-Sussman <sussman_at_collab.net>
Date: 2004-01-12 22:25:41 CET

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 14:48, Mike Mason wrote:

> - pedigree. Of the main developers I see floating around, I definitely
> know who Karl Fogel is, because his CVS book is sat on my desk at work.
> Anyone else mind name dropping themselves and why they know what they're
> talking about?

More name drops? Jim Blandy was an original designer of Subversion. He
and Karl Fogel co-founded Cyclic software, one of the earliest CVS
support companies. Jim now supports the GNU toolchain (gdb and friends)
full time. Greg Stein, another SVN designer, wrote mod_dav for Apache,
which is widely used in both open-source and commercial WebDAV software
now. We also have a bunch of core Apache people working on Subversion.

> - maturity. We're not at 1.0 yet, and a whole bunch of folks won't even
> look at something until it's 1.0. I've used it since 0.30 and not had
> any problems, but that's (unfortunately) not much of an argument. Are we
> in beta, even?

We were in Alpha for about 15 months, entered Beta recently, and are
planning to hit 1.0 in February. See the 'status' page on the website.

> - tools. Another kinda-1.0 thing. I stuck with the command line client
> because I'm a l33t h4x0r d00d, but there are some less elite folk out
> there who like/need GUIs. TortoiseSVN, great. Subclipse, great idea, is
> that actively being maintained?

TortoiseSVN is very popular. Subclipse is getting there. Both are
active projects.

> Needs recompiling when a new Subversion
> comes out.

Eventually, yes. Many folks have held off writing 3rd-party apps,
because they're waiting for a completely stable 1.0 API.

> So it's much
> easier for someone to say "no, don't do anything, too risky" than to
> actually make a migration plan and figure out if it's doable and how
> much risk we're talking about.

Find a smallish project in your company, and do a "pilot" test of
Subversion. See how it works out.

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