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Re: Deficiency in Subversion - restore breaks working copies

From: Sindbad the Seafarer <sindbad.the.seafarer_at_gmx.net>
Date: 2003-08-15 17:33:53 CEST

Concerning Re: Deficiency in Subversion - rest
John Locke wrote on 14 Aug 2003, 14:21, at least in part:

> Wadsworth, Eric (Contractor) wrote:

[text is snipped]

> >It's pretty well understood that when everything is down (as when a
> >repository is recently restored) that there is a lot of pressure on
> >the sysadmins to get it back up. This pressure can lead to mistakes,
> >especially when there are a lot of manual steps, and a lot of mental
> >grunting to figure out how to restore a usable system. Automation, my
> >friends!
> >
> Ditch your working copy, check out a new one. It's hard to get simpler
> than that! If your users have working copies that are a lot different
> than the repository, maybe you should spend your energy educating them
> about committing their changes more frequently!

That's one side of the medal. But how often do you suppose - RAID
aside - to backup the repository? Despite frequent commits there
could be much loss if the repos backup is a day old or more. You
will say Do a diff and patch operation with old and new working
copy (and perhaps even a simple synch operation with a file
manager like Total Commander while leaving out the .SVN folders
may do), but perhaps for that a routine could be added to make it
foolproof for the users stranded with a working copy ahead of a
restored repository.

I am too new to have more substantial on this, it just goes out of
my head as it did off Eric's. I am not even backing up the repository
so far, for once because I have not found a way yet to pipe
svnadmin archive under Windows to remove unused log files, for
twice I am less interested in version history and therefore
would/could create a new repository using a working copy, and for
thrice I don't have hundreds of working copies. Finally I have not
looked into post-commit hook scripts and hot backups and how
this might work under Win2000. Needs Python, doesn't it? I don't
have Python and I am not a programmer, so it would take a lot of
time to master that ....

Jan Hendrik

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