Re: please help me unsubscribing from this list

On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:03:45AM -0700, Zack Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 09:26:38AM -0500, kfogel@collab.net wrote:
>
> > When the two lists split, to not copy addresses over would therefore
> > have been the equivalent of *unsubscribing* them from a list they'd
> > asked to be on, without checking first.
>
> Mass subscriptions are just not friendly. You can't make assumptions
> that people want to join a new list, regardless of the list's subject
> or purpose. It's like getting spam from people you like and trust.

That's not always true. For instance, what if the list changed servers?

> > Neither option is clearly right, here.
>
> I think a better way is to just create a new list, subscribe no one,
> and then just be a net-cop on the dev list: when someone posts a user
> question, gently point them to the user list. Ta da!

Then there exists the chance that the user's list would have few people
there to help the user with his/her question (possibly none).

> > And obviously, we didn't know that unsubscription would be broken!
> > I mean, c'mon... :-)
>
> True enough, but even if it had worked, you still dumped a lot of mail
> into a lot of INBOXes that weren't expecting it. Add it all up, and it
> was a *huge* inconvenience. Virtually everyone had to clean up their
> mailboxes, track down the details, and modify their configurations.

And if they had been reading the original list (they were subscribed to
it after all) they would have known the change was coming and could have
been prepared for it.

In short its a situation without a _perfect_ solution. Either way it's
approached, someone is going to complain.

-- 
Jamin W. Collins
This is the typical unix way of doing things: you string together lots
of very specific tools to accomplish larger tasks. -- Vineet Kumar
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