On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 09:26:38AM -0500, kfogel@collab.net wrote:
> Ian MacLean <ianm@ActiveState.com> writes:
> > for some reason the users-unsubscribe@subversion.tigris.org alias is
> > not working for me. I have repeatedly sent mails to it and have had no
> > response. Is there some problem with the mailing list software ? I
> > couldn't see an admin alias on that page so I thought I'd post it
> > here. btw auto-subscribing people to a list they did not ask for is
> > possibly not the best policy, particularly if the unsubscribe option
> > isn't working properly.
>
> I've removed you and David Ascher from the list, as requested.
>
> People did ask to be subscribed to the equivalent of this list, back
> when dev@subversion.tigris.org was both user and dev list.
That's not really true. People subscribed to a particular address, and
configured their systems to behave properly when mail came in for that
list. They didn't subscribe to any old future list that the creators of that
first list think is relevant. Even if the purpose of one list changes,
it's up to the user to decide what to do about it.
> When the
> two lists split, to not copy addresses over would therefore have been
> the equivalent of *unsubscribing* them from a list they'd asked to be
> on, without checking first.
Mass subscriptions are just not friendly. You can't make assumptions
that people want to join a new list, regardless of the list's subject or
purpose. It's like getting spam from people you like and trust.
> Neither option is clearly right, here.
I think a better way is to just create a new list, subscribe no one, and
then just be a net-cop on the dev list: when someone posts a user
question, gently point them to the user list. Ta da!
>
> And obviously, we didn't know that unsubscription would be broken! I
> mean, c'mon... :-)
True enough, but even if it had worked, you still dumped a lot of mail into
a lot of INBOXes that weren't expecting it. Add it all up, and it was a
*huge* inconvenience. Virtually everyone had to clean up their mailboxes,
track down the details, and modify their configurations.
Be well,
Zack
>
> -Karl
>
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