Re: Problem with an advert (I assume) on your download site

Just to clarify, since the image seen depends on your location and the
phase of the moon, the particular image I see right now is the one
attached. As you can see it simply says "Download", and in one corner
"Powered by iLivid", which does not in any sense indicate that it is
actually iLivid you will be downloading. For all I know iLivid could
be an alternative to Sourceforge. The only indication that this is not
what it appears to be is the fact that the URL shown when you hover
over the button is for googleads.

Simon

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On 25 September 2011 00:58, Neil Sandford
<neil.sandford_at_neilsandford.co.uk> wrote:
> Mark, I applaud your response.
>
> For what it's worth, I've been checking what appears on the TSVN download
> page. Today, it's 'classic' text adverts, yesterday it was the vodafone
> graphical ad you see all over the place. The first day I visited, it was a
> big green button with 'download' on it. IT was large enough to push the real
> buttons 'below the fold'.
>
> If my memory is correct, the first thing that happened was a message box
> saying it was loading the ILIVID downloader. Not unreasonable, I've seen
> software before with its own install software. What it didn't say was that
> it was downloading the ILIVID toolbar or that it would be so difficult to
> get rid of.
>
> Malwarebytes doesn't find anything but there is something somewhere that
> keeps changing Firefox settings.
>
> Neil
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Phippard [mailto:markphip_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: 24 September 2011 23:25
> To: Jack Repenning
> Cc: Neil Sandford; feedback_at_tigris.org; users_at_tortoisesvn.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: Problem with an advert (I assume) on your download site
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Jack Repenning
> <jackrepenning_at_tigris.org> wrote:
>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Neil Sandford wrote:
>>
>> If Tigris is hosting the offending page then I say you have a duty of
> care.
>> If you say that responsibility for the page content lies with the
>> Tortoisesvn team then it is them who have a duty of care and you should
> turn
>> the page off until they respond to the breach.
>>
>> I hear what you're saying. We don't actually host the ads, though: they're
>> Google Ads, Google picks 'em. We, including TSVN, merely make a space
>> available.
>> As Tigris admin, I have no voice with Google; that's a contract between
>> TortoiseSVN and Google. As hosting provider, Tigris is only a "common
>> carrier," and while I sympathize with your pain, Tigris has neither the
>> authority nor the responsibility over these ads.
>
> FWIW, I do not recall ever seeing Google ads that included graphics
> and I think Google is pretty good at policing malware that comes
> through their ads.  If the TortoiseSVN project limited themselves to
> Google ads, there probably would not be an issue.
>
> I think Neil has a point, in that we have looked the other way and let
> TortoiseSVN continue to place these ads on their pages.  Obviously as
> one of the most popular projects on tigris we have probably given them
> more leeway than we might have some other project that did the same
> thing.  I do not think we can possibly police all the projects on
> tigris to make sure they do not have ads like these on their pages,
> but once brought to our attention we can do something about it.
>
> I do not know how much revenue these ads bring the project, so I do
> not know if they are willing to remove the ads or not. If they are
> not, then maybe it is time we just stop hosting it.  They have already
> moved most of the project off tigris anyway, so we could probably
> offer to put a redirect in place that sends users to
> http://tortoisesvn.net or whereever they choose.  My preference would
> be for them to remove the ads, or at least limit them to safer ads and
> keep their presence on tigris.
>
> --
> Thanks
>
> Mark Phippard
> http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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