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RE: I'm a long time user with a long time complaint

From: Loritsch, Berin <bloritsch_at_dtri.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:20:10 -0400

I'm in the process of trying to figure out what versions of client
software we need. The information I need is not readily available.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Grover [mailto:kevin_at_kevingrover.net]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:41 PM
To: users_at_tortoisesvn.tigris.org
Subject: Re: I'm a long time user with a long time complaint

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:01, Mike Dixon
<michael.dixon_at_denovosoftware.com> wrote:
> On 9/3/2010 6:30 AM, Andy Levy wrote:
>> Total backwards compatibility is the enemy of progress. Look at
>> how long it held Microsoft back.
>
> I'd state it more generally: progress and usability are competing
goals.
> Snide comments about the size of Microsoft's install base aside, from
> the end-user's perspective progress is something that's nice to have,
> but lack of usability is a game-killer just because of how frustrating
> the experience is.
>
> The man has a point (however inappropriately delivered): you can't use
> svn clients with different versions on the same WC. It's annoying. The
> solution as proposed is simply "don't do that", which really isn't a
> solution at all.

Of course its the solution - or you just standardize on one tool. If
you don't do this you are simply asking for problems. The OP just
needs to talk with the group of people at his company that is in
charge of installing software. Point out the problems encountered
when the various utilities they use are built against different
versions of the subversion libraries.

It's really not that hard.

Granted, when you don't understand the behavior in the first place,
it's confusing. All subversion clients are subject to this problem.
The OP obviously didn't understand this. I'm sure he does now.

> Now, certainly there are technical reasons why it makes sense that svn
> works this way. I'm sure it would be a gigantic maintenance burden to
> build some kind of compatibility shim system into svn so that it could
> continue to operate on old WCs. (And this is still the wrong list for
> this conversation.)
>
> However, that doesn't stop it from being annoying when you run into
the
> problem. I think a more appropriate response would have been: yes,
it's
> a technical limitation of svn. However, it would be very hard to fix,
> and the developers haven't felt so far that it's worth trying to fix
the
> problem.
>
> -Mike
>
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