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Re: Announcing SubversionForum.com

From: Chris Stewart <compiledmonkey_at_gmail.com>
Date: 2007-08-01 15:49:06 CEST

> I'm sorry, but what makes you think that you are *not* duplicating
> effort? There's svnforum.org, which does the very same you do now. Can
> you tell us what exactly is new/different on your site?

As I stated before, I'm not planning on just having a forum and doing
nothing else. Quite obviously nothing is different yet, but the site has
been public for 3 days. Give it time.

> Can you share those ideas? Maybe get some feedback before you put
> everything online?

I'm attempting to work with providers of tools related to Subversion to come
together in a common place to discuss and learn about Subversion and their
tools. Other things I'm trying to do can't be discussed openly just yet.
As I can talk about them I certainly will.

> Please describe the "void" that you feel. What exactly is missing?

I definitely feel that a central place for Subversion help, learning, and
discussion is missing. svnforum.org fills some of that gap, along with the
svn mailing list, along with this list, and others. The key here is
central.

> I'm sorry, but to me this seems just like a lame excuse to try to make
> some money of other peoples work.

So I'm guessing you feel the same way about svnforum.org, correct? I don't
see how I'm trying to make money off of other people's work. It's really
not appreciated that you make that claim as a way to discredit me.

> I've checked your blog, and while it's not that interesting, the one
> thing that came to mind when I scanned over some articles there is that
> the whole site is mostly MFA.

Everyone has an opinion and I appreciate hearing yours. Instead of scanning
over the front page articles, take the time to read them and follow the site
for more than 5 mins before you claim it's MFA.

> Apart from that: when you first announced dotnetsvn, I tried to check it
> out. I tried some time later again, and just now again. The server is
> either completely down or not reachable. And it never was. That clearly
> shows that you are not really interested in your own projects and that
> you don't follow through with them. Otherwise you would have noticed
> long ago that the whole server isn't reachable.

I just checked the site as well and it appears to be down again. We receive
free hosting and it's safe to say we've had problems with it. The server
may not be up right now but don't act as if it never has been. My analytics
would suggest otherwise, my SVN commit history would show otherwise, and the
fact I updated the site on my vacation two weeks ago would suggest
otherwise.

I'm certainly interested in DotNetSvn but it's not the only thing I do. I
work a full time job, have a wife, a baby on the way, run a business, and
other sites. Don't take that site and claim my interest level because you
can't access it right now.

> Another thing: I'd like to have people discussing stuff on our mailing
> lists so I can read what they post. There might be a bug in TSVN which I
> have to fix, or I might get an idea on how to improve TSVN so the people
> won't have the problems they're discussing about. If the users would do
> that spread all over multiple forums and other places, I would miss that
> important information.

I certainly agree with this point. That's what I'm hoping to help solve
with a central local for _everything_ related to Subversion.

On 8/1/07, Stefan Küng <tortoisesvn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Chris Stewart wrote:
> > I'm not planning to open up the forums, announce it, and let it sit and
> > hope it serves the Subversion community as I'd like it to. I really
> > don't feel like I'm going to duplicate effort. I have a few ideas I'm
>
> I'm sorry, but what makes you think that you are *not* duplicating
> effort? There's svnforum.org, which does the very same you do now. Can
> you tell us what exactly is new/different on your site?
>
> > in the middle of right now that would bring the related tools and
> > services for Subversion into a single place. I'm prepared to to spend
>
> Can you share those ideas? Maybe get some feedback before you put
> everything online?
>
> > the time and money to advertise the community and turn it into what a
> > Subversion community should be. I mean to take no attention from anyone
> > else's efforts but I feel there is a void and I'm working to fill it.
>
> Please describe the "void" that you feel. What exactly is missing?
>
> I'm sorry, but to me this seems just like a lame excuse to try to make
> some money of other peoples work.
> I've checked your blog, and while it's not that interesting, the one
> thing that came to mind when I scanned over some articles there is that
> the whole site is mostly MFA.
> Apart from that: when you first announced dotnetsvn, I tried to check it
> out. I tried some time later again, and just now again. The server is
> either completely down or not reachable. And it never was. That clearly
> shows that you are not really interested in your own projects and that
> you don't follow through with them. Otherwise you would have noticed
> long ago that the whole server isn't reachable.
>
> Another thing: I'd like to have people discussing stuff on our mailing
> lists so I can read what they post. There might be a bug in TSVN which I
> have to fix, or I might get an idea on how to improve TSVN so the people
> won't have the problems they're discussing about. If the users would do
> that spread all over multiple forums and other places, I would miss that
> important information.
>
> Stefan
>
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Received on Wed Aug 1 15:47:35 2007

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