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Re: Tortoise SVN Ignore Usability

From: Kevin Cannon <kevin_at_multiblah.com>
Date: 2006-06-21 12:25:00 CEST

Lübbe Onken <l.onken <at> rac.de> writes:
> Kevin Cannon wrote:
> > I would suggest rethinking this slightly and see if you can make it
> > more user friendly.
> There are some behaviours we cannot change, because they are handled by the
> underlying subversion libraries. Anyhow, you are telling us that everything
> in ignore is confusing to you, counter intuitive and so on.

I understand Tortoise certainly has to deal with some limitations of
subversion,but Tortoises Global Ignore could be changed.
> Lets turn the question around:
> - What are you doing?
> - What did you expect to happen?
> - What is actually happening?

I'm a designer building HTML to give to the developers. I'm trying to
ignore the Thumbs.db files generated by windows, and the _notes/
directories generated by Dreamweaver.

I have this in my global ingore:
Thumbs.db *humbs.db _notes/ dwsync.xml

I've both things set in the global ignore in tortoise. However, when I do a
commit I still get prompted with these files, and have to uncheck them. If I
have set a global ignore on a file, then I never expect to see it, unless I
explicitly say I want to add it in.

> - Did you invest some time reading the docs on ingoring stuff or did you
> just try-and-error?

Initially I just set the ignore when I realise some things didn't need to
be in the repository. When it didn't work as expected I consulted the
documentation, and the users list. Despite reading extensively and following
the rules is still does not work as expected.

> Maybe it's the documentation that needs improvement.

Sure, that might be better. But that would seem more like dammage
limitation to me.
> > Also, on a more general note. I would suggest having two
> > modes in the UI for
> > tortoise, a beginner & advanced. At the moment, all I do is, check
> > in, check out, the odd diff, delete, but very little else. The
> > developers handle all the
> > advanced stuff like branching etc... It would be great to be able to
> > just download a version of Tortoise SVN aimed at beginners.
> There will be no separate version for beginners, but you can get to
> something similar yourself.

If I have to do it myself it kind of defeats the purpose, but I guess if
Tortoise is aimed at developers then it's not all that important a feature.
> Go to Settings->Display and uncheck the menu options that you use most. This
> will place them in the top context menu, so you will see them first.

Thanks, but that's not quite what I was looking for. I'd like to get rid of
things from the right click menu, not make it busier.


- Kevin

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