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Re: [OT] Turtle

From: Mark Phippard <markp_at_softlanding.com>
Date: 2006-05-18 19:19:38 CEST

Stefan Küng <tortoisesvn@gmail.com> wrote on 05/18/2006 12:26:19 PM:

> Mark Phippard wrote:
> > Just to play a bit of a devil's advocate here, why is it OK for two
> > source projects to be called TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN, but not for
> > another open source project to be called Turtle? This is not a
> > from Microsoft, it is an open source product that is doing something
> > the TortoiseXXX products, but for Microsoft's Team Foundation Server.
> > Would it be better if they called it TortoiseTF or TortoiseTFS?
> The reason I'm a little concerned is that they don't call their product
> "Turtle TFS" but only "Turtle". If you search with Google for
> TortoiseSVN, you will find some pages were people refer to it as
> "Tortise svn" or even "Turtle SVN" (I guess they don't like French :) ).
> So, they using the term "Turtle" without an addition what version
> control system their product is for there's a big chance of people
> getting confused about which is which.
> And I'm also concerned because even their product is open source, it's
> still a big company behind it with (I guess) many lawyers. I'd like to
> avoid having them force us to change our name.

I do not think ThoughtWorks is all that big. Certainly bigger than you as
an individual. They also would not have any grounds for asking you to
change your name, not that it couldn't still cause you problems. I think
your better argument is the Google argument.

I guess I still have the impression that you think Microsoft is behind
this. As I understand things, codeplex.com is ultimately supposed to
serve as a "SourceForge.net" style community that is built on the
Microsoft technologies. That does not mean that Microsoft has any stake
in the projects being hosted on it.

BTW, I saw your proposed letter, and I think it is pretty good and


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