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Re: [Subclipse-dev] subclipse rpm

From: Andrew Vaughan <ajv-lists_at_netspace.net.au>
Date: 2006-04-28 17:59:53 CEST

Hi Mark,

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:06, Mark Phippard wrote:
> We can do it if it is something you really use. In the past it has
> seemed that most Linux distros were more concerned with having the
> correct tags in the repository so that they could pull the source
> themselves. We have been doing that now for quite a while. You would
> rather download a zipped source file?

In Debian, maintainers are encouraged to use a official upstream tar.gz
instead of pulling sources from a version control system.

> I assume you would just do that
> part manually and then launch your own build process? If that is the
> case, what is special about your process that you could not just download
> our build and package it?

I can't speak for Fedora, but for Debian main all packages *must* build from

There are multiple reasons for this requirement:
    Auto-building is the only feasible way of building 15,000 source
    packages on 11 different harware architectures. (Yes, this is relevant
    to subclipse, because current eclipse packages compile eclipse to a
    native binary with gcj).

    Binary-only packages (ie packaging upstream binaries) make it impossible
    for Debian to fix bugs. This makes security support impossible.

    The security team requires packages autobuild for security support.

    It is a requirement for end users to be able to modify and rebuild
    packages. (That's what the free software movement is all about).
> Also, I have been seeing the problems "you guys" have been having via
> Bloglines. The problem is most likely a mismatch between JavaHL Java
> library and the JavaHL binary library. In 1.3 Subversion added a new
> initialization method to the library. So if you have a 1.3 JAR and a 1.2
> library or vice versa, it crashes. If you search our users@ archives for
> "Havoc Pennington" you can find some activity that happened in this area
> several months ago.
> Finally, I have seen suggestions about removing the svnjavahl.jar file.
> You cannot do this, our code depends on it even if using the JavaSVN
> adapter.

In Debian the svnjavahl.jar should be removed from subclipse, subclipse
should use the svn-javahl.jar from the subversion packages. (Only one
package should ship a library, so (hopefully) only one package needs to be
rebuilt to fix a security bug).


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