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Re: [announce-owner@apache.org: Returned post for announce@apache.org]

From: Stefan Sperling <stsp_at_elego.de>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 08:46:12 +0200

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 06:27:54AM +0000, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Stefan Sperling wrote on Thu, 28 May 2020 08:07 +0200:
> > +++ releasing.part.html (working copy)
> > @@ -1300,6 +1300,20 @@ Ensure that your mailer doesn't wrap the URLs over
> > <p>NOTE: We announce the release before updating the website since the website
> > update links to the release announcement sent to the announce@ mailing list.</p>
> >
> > +<p>It is possible that your message to the ASF-wide announce_at_apache.org will
> > +be rejected. This generates a moderation notification with a Subject line
> > +such as: <tt>Returned post for announce_at_apache.org</tt>.
>
> Spell out that this is specifically about announce_at_a.o, as opposed to announce_at_s.a.o?
>
> > +The originator of such moderation messages is anonymous if the moderator
> > +neglects to sign the moderation message with their own name, which makes it
> > +impossible to have an actual conversation with the moderator.
>
> Mention that a conversation can be had by emailing announce-owner@?

How about this?

Index: releasing.part.html
===================================================================
--- releasing.part.html (revision 1878172)
+++ releasing.part.html (working copy)
@@ -1300,6 +1300,23 @@ Ensure that your mailer doesn't wrap the URLs over
 <p>NOTE: We announce the release before updating the website since the website
 update links to the release announcement sent to the announce@ mailing list.</p>
 
+<p>There are two announce@ mailing lists where the release announcement gets
+posted: The Subversion project's announce@ list, and the ASF-wide announce@
+list. It is possible that your message to the ASF-wide announce@ list will
+be rejected. This generates a moderation notification with a Subject line
+such as: <tt>Returned post for announce_at_apache.org</tt>.
+The originator of such moderation messages is anonymous if the moderator
+neglects to sign the moderation message with their own name, which makes it
+impossible to have an actual one-on-one conversation with the moderator.
+If you receive such a moderation message please stay calm and forward it to
+Subversion's dev@ mailing list so the project can discuss whether anything
+needs to be done about it. (If necessary, announce@ mailing list moderators
+can be contacted via the announce-owner@ handle.)
+In the past, this moderation mechanism was abused to alert the Subversion
+project about ASF-wide policy changes in the way the KEYS files are supposed
+to be handled. This is inappropriate because moderation is supposed to filter
+out spam. Policy changes should be discussed on the dev@ list instead.</p>
+
 <p>Update the topics in various Subversion-related IRC channels, such as
 <tt>#svn</tt> and <tt>#svn-dev</tt> on freenode.</p>
 
Received on 2020-05-28 08:46:22 CEST

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