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Re: Server-side SavePoints [was: Subversion Design Contribution Question]

From: Daniel J. Lacks, PhD <DannyL9143_at_aol.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 01:03:23 -0400

Julian,

No problem, I thought your responses were helpful and constructive.  I
am interested to help, at this point I want to know what is the best way
for me to do that.  For example, how to start: brainstorming,
collaborating (hosting a meeting, chat channel, or opening an issue
ticket), or just do it?   What format: Wiki, Word document, PowerPoint
presentation, etc.?  How much research should I do: you mentioned
client-side tool integration (TortoiseSVN, etc.) and other tools for
comparison (Git, Perforce, etc.)?  My assumption is you are perhaps
looking to take a step back from what is already posted about SavePoints
and perhaps address a design that includes client side and server side
use cases, scenarios, and approaches.  Then at some point I assume it is
reviewed and versioned, then someone can decide what to implement now or
in the future.

Feel free to contact me offline if that makes sense, I am new to this. 
I want to help, but I also want to get it right the first time to save
everyone's time.

Thanks,

Danny

On 11/1/2017 9:25 AM, Julian Foad wrote:
> Julian Foad wrote:
>> Have we thought of the server-side possibility? Of course. [...]
> I realized what I said can come across as rather critical and
> dismissive of the idea. I hope that you or others will be equally
> critical of my work. My start on shelving is nothing more than a thin
> wrapper around 'svn diff' and 'svn patch' at this stage, so the same
> questions apply to it. I think how it works is the simple UI gives me
> a mental framework that helps me think about the potential use cases
> and further requirements, whereas using diff and patch directly would
> tend to constrain my thinking to the use cases and limitations of
> those existing commands.
>
> So another way I could respond is, sure, that may be the start of
> something good and useful, so please go ahead and start creating it
> and/or thinking further and expanding on the details. Others have
> asked for this server-side kind of shelving before, and Perforce
> shelving is server-side. Maybe only by trying it will we really learn
> how useful it is and what for. Might you have the time to take the
> idea further? It would be great if you did; even a little input like
> your initial inquiry is helpful.
>
> - Julian

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