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Re: Missing ASF-wide announcement for 1.7.9, 1.6.21

From: Ben Reser <ben_at_reser.org>
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:32:31 -0700

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Konstantin Kolinko
<knst.kolinko_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Regarding 1.6.x, all versions (except a few 1.7 betas) between April
> 2010 and February 2012 were announced on that list. This includes
> 1.6.11 .. 1.6.17 and 1.5.9. Announcements ceased since March 2012 for
> either 1.7.x or 1.6.x.

Yup I'm guessing that's about when Hyrum stopped doing all of them and
other people took over. Since it wasn't documented it stopped
happening.

> Personally, I do not care about 1.6.x.
> I hope that there will be a 1.8.x release sometime this year, and so
> this topic about 1.6.x will become obsolete.

Agreed.

> A mailing list prefix does not matter much. What matters is whether
> you want to distinguish this message from others on that mailing list.
> So it is OK to have two prefixes.
>
> I agree that it does not matter for the announcements list as there
> are no non-announcement messages in it. So, OK. I just noted that you
> looked out of line here.

I'm disinclined to make a change to our subject lines we've been using
for so long unless several people think it's a good idea. Personally,
I find them as more of a clutter than a help. A good subject line
shouldn't need a prefix. But that's my view, if others thing it's
useful we can change it.

> I did not note that sentence. ;)
>
> Looking at the file history, that phrase was added in r1140689 (June 2011).
>
> I have not heard about such automated forwards elsewhere. It might be
> that it was some typo. It does not say "automatically". So maybe it
> meant that release manager forwards the message.
>
> Actually,
> - Such forwarding does not happen.
> - All announcements that were sent by Hyrum Wright explicitly include
> "announce at apache org" in the list of addresses
>
> E.g. looking at announcement for 1.7.3, there is "View raw message"
> link at the bottom of the page, where you can see the addressees list.
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201202.mbox/%3CCAFwo6TZonyaVvhFiHQ0__J=XsT_JdiE0QLF7=08PA3Zv4E7JxQ@mail.gmail.com%3E

I've gone ahead and updated the documentation to make it more explicit.

> BTW,
> a minor thing that is also missing in a release is update to this DOAP file:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/doap.rdf?view=markup
>
> I mean, it still says "1.6.15".
>
> The DOAP file is used to publish project info here:
> http://projects.apache.org/projects/subversion.html
>
> Description:
> http://projects.apache.org/doap.html

Updated and added to the list of things to update as part of the release.

Thanks.
Received on 2013-04-08 21:33:14 CEST

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