Re: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 13:21:47 -0800 (PST)
Calling a coded solution a "giant waste
of time and energy" is highly uncivilized
at the ASF, please let's not paper over that.
The "solution" I have in mind for update and
checkout support is already live on svn.apache.org,
all I need is some sensible optional support from
the client. Why this involves knuckle-dragging is
beyond me. Please do me a favor and test out the
code I wrote before insulting me further- thx.
>________________________________
> From: Johan Corveleyn <jcorvel_at_gmail.com>
>To: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer_at_yahoo.com>
>Cc: Branko Čibej <brane_at_wandisco.com>; "dev_at_subversion.apache.org" <dev_at_subversion.apache.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 2:32 PM
>Subject: Re: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
>
>On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>> It was civil until CMike got on his
>> high horse- you need to police yourselves
>> a bit better before you start accusing
>> outsiders of misbehavior- that's how civility
>> starts degrading in a project.
>
>Woah, there must be some different wavelengths in this conversation.
>
>I didn't see any high horse in CMike's response. I found his response
>exactly to the point (pointing out that 'relocate' is the wrong action
>here, and that there is a need for a 'switch' (or for 'update'
>following moves of the working copy root, which is another way of
>putting it), and that's not a feature we currently have).
>
>Or maybe you're referring to his mention of "chatter in this thread"
>(which was, frankly, quite true, because of the sheer amount of posts
>-- but I wouldn't take that as offensive), or of "a giant waste of
>time and energy" (which sadly seems to be also true, however bad that
>sounds). Nothing uncivil AFAICS.
>
>> The fact is that a robust solution involves
>> coding this up as part of the generic exception
>> handling mechanics for whatever svn ops can deal
>> with 301s. What's currently in 1.7 that we're
>> pretending automates the redirect problem is inadequate
>> for any serious svn http server administrator trying
>> to track moves. This is not an idle question-
>> Daniel actually tried putting a Redirect block
>> in for the openejb -> tomee rename and all it wound
>> up doing is destroying any attempts to crawl
>> the project's pre-move history. We had to back
>> out the change just to let our git-svn mirror
>> pick up the new tomee location and DTRT with the
>> history.
>
>Sure, it's a genuine feature request (though you're the first one
>bringing this up AFAIK), but it's simply not a feature of svn at the
>moment. Please allow for some discussion (which includes pointing out
>that this might not be as simple as you think it is), before accusing
>some of as of being dicks.
>
>And, now that we arrived at the conclusion that this has nothing to do
>with the 1.7 feature of "automatic relocate on redirect": no this is
>not a feature we ostensibly support, this is something quite
>different.
>
>--
>Johan
>
>
>
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