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Re: run a beta for 1.7?

From: Daniel Widenfalk <Daniel.Widenfalk_at_iar.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:28:42 +0200

Hyrum K. Wright wrote:
> On Oct 17, 2009, at 3:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> We haven't run any alphas or betas since 1.0. However, I'm thinking it
>> may be prudent to pull out the "beta" label for the 1.7 release. I
>> think it may be a good idea to get some broad usage (on the client)
>> from a larger userbase for a little while before we ship out the 1.7
>> release.
> We actually ran a beta for 1.5, and it was an utter disaster. Nobody
> wanted to risk their working copies on a 'beta', there wasn't a clear
> definition of what separated a beta from a release candidate, and
> third parties (such as Subclipse and TortoiseSVN) were understandably
> hesitant to cut a beta of their own based upon our still-moving API
> and WC format targets. Since most people get their copy of Subversion
> from third-party sources, and not directly from the project, this last
> point pretty much killed the beta before it started.
>> We're probably a couple months before even *talking* about a release,
>> so we have time to discuss this option. But I just wanted to throw
>> this little hand-grenade out earlier, rather than later.
> The above being said, I would *love* to ship stable pre-release code
> and have people give it a whirl. I know that I'll be encouraging my
> clients to give pre-1.7 a thorough testing, since they have usage
> scenarios far beyond what I typically encounter.
> The key to doing a beta, IMO, is to be very confident that our wc
> formats are stable, and especially that the APIs are stable, so that
> other clients will also release betas. (But then we get the faction
> that says "why not just cut a release candidate and get the soak
> started?") We have to ensure that binaries are available, not just
> our tarballs.
> -Hyrum


I'd be willing to participate in a "beta program" for 1.7 as long as
someone can supply me with Windows (client) binaries. I'd also be
willing to take it for a test drive on the server side if I can get
a source package that is buildable under Ubuntu 9.04 using debuild
or similar.

Both server and client tests would be made in a production environment
but in separate WCs and on a separate server so as to minimize any
risks :-)

/Daniel Widenfalk

Received on 2009-10-19 02:48:56 CEST

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