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Re: [PATCH] Add Subversion in Action book

From: William Nagel <bill_at_stagelogic.com>
Date: 2005-07-25 21:09:36 CEST

On Jul 24, 2005, at 12:14 PM, Garrett Rooney wrote:

> Max Bowsher wrote:
>> On 7/15/05, Gábor Szabó <szabgab@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [[[
>>> * www/project_links.html
>>> Add Subversion in Action book to the web site
>>> ]]]
>> I have skimmed the two sample chapters available for free.
>> There is some useful explanation there, but much of the condent is
>> already covered in the svnbook.
> That seems a bit unreasonable. Every book we list on that page
> covers much of the same core content, plus a bit of their own
> stuff, I don't see why that should exclude this one. I think I've
> speaking with a bit of authority here, considering that I wrote one
> of them and tech reviewed another.

As the author of yet another of those books, I have to second Garrett
here. The Subversion project is best served by linking to any and
all reputable books currently available on the topic.

Also, I'd like to add that the sample chapter the publisher chose to
make available for my book is full of information that is already
covered in one form or another in the core book. It would be a
mistake, though, to assume that the whole book is derivative based
solely on that chapter.

>> Furthermore, this paragraph...
>> [[[
>> If you find yourself in a live discussion which touches on Subversion
>> you might like to know that those in the know do /not/ pronounce
>> it as a single
>> word, with the accent on the "ver." Instead they say is as if it were
>> two words /Sub
>> version./ Pronounce it as they do and your standing automatically
>> improves.
>> ]]]
>> ... makes me instantly dislike the book.
>> Firstly, being a committer, I would consider myself "in the know",
>> but
>> I pronounce it "Subversion", and think "Sub version" sounds
>> unnaturally awkward.
>> Secondly, I'd like to think that at least a fair proportion of those
>> "in the know" are not so shallow as to pre-judge someone by their
>> pronunciation.
> I'm going to have to agree that it seems like a pretty silly
> paragraph, but considering that people learn about projects like
> Subversion largely through plain-text media, differences in
> pronunciation come up in various communities, and I can certainly
> see this being true in the one the author happens to be a part of...
> I guess what I'm saying is that yeah, it probably has some
> overlapping content, and that particular paragraph is a bit silly,
> but it is another book from a reasonably well known publisher, so
> adding it to the page adds to our credibility as a project more
> than it detracts from it.

Yup, silly paragraph, but certainly a forgivable one. I'm sure it's
true given the author's experience, and I'm also sure he chose to add
it just to put a little extra tidbit into the book to make it

For what it's worth, I pronounce it differently from him with the
emphasis on the 'ver', but I've never met a Subversion developer in
person so I wouldn't claim to have any clue how they pronounce it.


> -garrett
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