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Re: [Issue 1813] Using ./.subversion, if it exists, to override/augment ~/.subversion settings

From: <kfogel_at_collab.net>
Date: 2004-04-12 23:03:32 CEST

Lele Gaifax <lele@nautilus.homeip.net> writes:
> kfogel> http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1813
> kfogel> We generally prefer to discuss new ideas on the mailing
> kfogel> lists, then summarize the conclusions in the issue tracker
> kfogel> (with pointers to the mailing list thread, of course).
> kfogel> This is so the issue tracker remains more or less a todo
> kfogel> list, instead of being a discussion forum, since it's not
> kfogel> well-suited technically for the latter.
> Pardon me, but while I wished for better arguments to justify
> status'ing it Resolved, as already said in this ML (see below), I
> *did* talk about that both on IRC and on ML, and you are the second
> person that instead of making a point, or see if others can take
> advantage of an idea (or not!-) just drop it because "we didn't talk
> /there/ about /this/": maybe this should be made clear before letting
> one submit a new issue, but, imho, one should never assume that "since
> I never heard of it, it must not be relevant".

No, you misunderstood what I wrote.

You opened an issue about a discussion that took place on mailing
lists / in IRC... but you attached none of that context to the issue!
Therefore, I had no way to know that there *was* any such context.

So I closed the issue, asking for discussion first, but also said if
the discussion had already been had, to please reopen with pointers to
the correct archives.

And, since you mention it, this policy *is* "made clear", right on the
front page of the issue tracker:


Notice the big yellow box with text near the top, and see the third
bulleted item in that box.

> Anyway...
> kfogel> Can you take this idea to dev@subversion.tigris.org?
> Here I am :-)

Yes, thank you.

> kfogel> Or, if there *is* a mailing list thread on this, reopen
> kfogel> this issue and link to it.
> Uhm, *can* I actually do that?

Uhm, yes, otherwise I wouldn't have asked. Did you try?

> See these messages:
> [...]
> And browse this "focusnipped" chat on #svn, 29/03/2004 23:15:05 CET:
> [...]

Yes, this is exactly the stuff I was asking for you to put in the
issue when you reopen it. Can you do that? Thanks.

> So, again, if it's a stupid idea, say that, and I'll be happy. But
> before that, spend a few seconds to think about it, because even if
> evidently *others* have done that before you, this should not
> interfere with its goodness/badness ratio.

You have no idea how many seconds (or more) I spent thinking about it
before I asked for more context, so please don't make guesses.

If you'll just include the context the first time, this won't happen.
(And if you forget to, that's fine, but don't complain that you've
been done an injustice, just because someone asks you to follow the
clear & posted issue tracker guidelines :-) ).


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