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Re: timestamp preservation design (issue 1256)

From: Jack Repenning <jrepenning_at_collab.net>
Date: 2003-06-24 19:13:31 CEST

At 10:36 AM +0200 6/24/03, Ph. Marek wrote:
>After all this discussing I still believe that the stored properties should be
>used *only* on export, so that build tools see which data has changed.

Did that truly mean "only export"? Or "export and checkout"? Just
trying to clarify your intent, not expressing an opinion at this

>or if it should be restored with the
>file(s) for easier version tracking by the user. (as it is common to say
>"this file is from march" instead of "I have version 515 of that file"

Ah, yes: *that's* the argument for repository times. Thanks for
stating it so clearly!

Still in all, I'm uncomfortable with all this. If it takes a bunch
of smart folks like this list so much debate merely to establish the
ideal mix of models and paradigms ("paradigmata"?), it seems like
most users will merely be confused--as, indeed, were we all for a
couple days' worth of discussion!

"Doing exactly what CVS does" has a certain usability charm, in that
CVS has trained a legion of users to its foibles. But this behavior
seems to flirt alarmingly with that nebulous line between "feature"
and "bug" that's Subversion's life-blood. Making it *more*
complicated (by providing a user-settable property) is certainly not
a clarification, whatever fancy tricks it enables.

Jack Repenning
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