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Re: collab.net support

From: Sebastien Cevey <seb_at_cine7.net>
Date: 2002-12-16 21:53:03 CET

On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 02:47:34PM -0500, Robert Anderson wrote:

> >I truthfully don't follow your argument at all. It's not as though
> >Collabnet is the only company in the world that's allowed to make a
> >profit from Subversion. Anyone can do so. Go ahead and start your
> >own company. :-)
>
> I never said it was. What I said is that Collabnet intends to
> profit from subversion, and I am not interested in helping
> Collabnet do that (given other options that achieve my goals),
> because that hurts me.

Excuse me but, do you live in a cave or something ?
Does it *hurt* you to *help* ?

Yes, there is money involved. Money runs the world, in case you didn't
notice. I hate that, too. A company must make money in order to
persist, this is the mere definition of it. But it does not mean that
it has to do it in an evil way.

I cannot see any important free software that is not used "in a
commercial way" (understand, to make money) by at least one company in
the world. It doesn't mean that thousands of people don't enjoy the
software as well. This is the case for gnu/linux, apache, cvs (!),
and so on, as it has been said before.

If you don't want your code used, you'll have to make sure it's bad
enough to prevent anybody to even think about using it. How sad.

And I don't see the difference between a company "sponsoring" people
to develop a free software, and a free software run by volonteers that
is used by companies. In fact, the former sounds even more fair,
because they help the product they'll use.

Do they "control the software" ? Absolutely not, since this is free
software, you are free to fork the project, for instance. And I doubt
the Subversion community would accept abuses of power, so they just
can't do "whatever they want", or they'll lose the community, which is
just as important as the software itself, if not more.

Do they "own your contributions" ? I don't think so either. Linus
doesn't own all the patches that were submitted to him, which is a
good reason that prevents him from changing the linux license.

That said, this is trivial talkings, if you want to run your own SCM,
you may, you're free, or maybe just have a look at other alternatives
(arch, Aegis). But I doubt you'll convince anybody here ... This is
free software, with all its possibilities and problems.

-- 
Sebastien Cevey <seb@cine7.net>
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