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Re: GUI for subversion?

From: Karl Fogel <kfogel_at_newton.ch.collab.net>
Date: 2002-06-05 22:48:22 CEST

"Jay Freeman \(saurik\)" <saurik@saurik.com> writes:
> I'd more like the Unix people to be careful about the Windows builds. When
> new files are added, people should be notified so the build scripts can be
> updated. When more fundamental issues come up (such as the major read-only
> regression that likely still hasn't been fixed), the code should be rolled
> back. There was even a milestone that almost went out a few months ago with
> a Win32 client that couldn't even do a checkout. There was more interest in
> getting the milestone out for the Unix people than getting the patch that I
> had sent in applied to the Win32 build. I am pretty sure it got applied,
> but only because I made an annoying argument to the case.

I notice a lot of passive voice here. "People should be notified",
"The code should be rolled back", ...

Are you volunteering to solve these problems?

If you're upset because you sent in patches which got ignored (which
is justifiable), please post complaining about that issue. When you
do work, like making a patch, we should appreciate and take advantage
of this, that's for sure.

But if you're proposing that people who have neither the experience
nor the equipment to maintain Win32 code should do so anyway, that
just doesn't seem realistic to me.

Subversion works well on Unix because more Unix developers
participate. It works on Win32 to the degree that Win32 developers
participate (like Brane, et al, bless 'em). No one's

You talk like no one has ever caused a Unix regression, like there's
some conspiracy to frustrate Win32 developers specifically. There
isn't. Subversion is just like any other project -- it works where
people test it. If you want it to work better under Windows, please
help make that happen.

> I understand that my e-mail here is a little abrasive, but it's a
> culmination of being fed up for months, dealing with other people who are
> now thouroughly convinced that we won't be able to switch to Subversion for
> the projects I have been advocating it for due to the seeming lack of Win32
> empathy, and a number of mis-starts on an e-mail that voices these very
> sentiments. I finally gave up when I noticed that a response to the GUI
> message started turning into that same thread in my head and just wrote it
> out.

No one here asked you to deal with those "other people", so don't
transfer their complaints to this list.


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Received on Wed Jun 5 22:53:08 2002

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