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Re: Subversion 1.8 in RHEL/Centos repositories

From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 06:06:18 -0500

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Junek LeoÅ” <junek_at_oksystem.cz> wrote:
> Hello,
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> I am newbie in subversion administration or development issues. So I am
> sorry if my question looks stupid.
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> Why Subversion 1.8 RPMs were not included to RHEL 7 / Centos 7 / Oracle
> Linux 7 (native) repositories, though it was released on 18th June 2013 and
> RHEL 7 GA was introduced on June 2014? Even now, 28 months after Subversion
> 1.8 release date I cannot find it in Centos repositories.
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> e.g. http://merlin.fit.vutbr.cz/mirrors/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/Packages/

If you'd like my RHEL 7 RPM building tooks they're up at
https://github.com/nkadel/subversion-1.8.x-srpm.

Red Hat doesn't publish major release updates for a stable OS because
RHEL is a "server" operating system, long-term stable, and with pretty
much guaranteed compatibility and stability with all previous software
versions originall realeased with the OS. In particular, if you update
to Subversion 1.8 on one system and have an NFS shared working copy on
a non-updated system, or simply rsync hte copy to a non-updated
system, you cannot use the new working copy on a host without updating
Subversion. And small differences in formatting output, or in features
like handling of submodules, can *break* your stable workflow pretty
badly.

The classic example is https://xkcd.com/1172/, which I occasionally
cite at work.

This reluctance to update happened with RHEL 5, which had Subversion
1.4. Red Hat did eventually upgrade to 1.6. I I think the big feature
that got them to switch was the switch *away* from automatically and
silently storing passwords in cleartext in $HOME/.subversion/. But it
took years!

Rpmforge used to publish just such updates, I used to submit them
there, but my pull updates for Rpmforge have been languishing for some
time, basically since Dag Weiers stepped back from maintaining
Rpmforge.

> Why is it available only via 3rdparty repositories, e.g. via WanDisco? Who
> decided not to create RPMs of Subversion 1.8 for RHEL 7 based distributions.

Red Hat. If you have a subscription, submit a feature request!

EPEL won't publish them, because they refuse to replace existing RHEL
components. Their approach is understandable, thought with the
continuing lack of RPMforge updates it leaves people like you out in
the cold.

> I would like to install Subversion 1.8 from native distribution repository
> and wonder why it is not availableā€¦

My RPM building tools are published. I don't personally have a web
service I can rely on sufficiently well to publish reliable, GPG
signed RPM's and have high confidence that someone can't maliciously
replace the repository, including a fake GPG key. Who checks the
signature chain on website published GPG keys?
Received on 2015-11-03 12:06:35 CET

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