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Re: Want to set up SVN for a web app

From: Theodore H. Smith <delete_at_elfdata.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:10:46 +0100

On 1 Apr 2009, at 14:56, Giulio Troccoli wrote:

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>> From: Theodore H. Smith [mailto:delete_at_elfdata.com]
>> Sent: 01 April 2009 14:45
>> To: users_at_subversion.tigris.org
>> Subject: Want to set up SVN for a web app
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>> Hi everyone,
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>> So I want to set up SVN for a website. This website has a lot
>> of php, perl, java, javascript, and swf...
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>> I've never used SVN before. I am really confused as where to start.
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>> We have multiple developers. And each developer mostly is
>> working on separate projects that "link" together. Does that
>> mean I need multiple repositories?
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>> Also, we cannot make the entire website into the svn
>> repository, because there are hundreds of thousands of user
>> generated files lying around!
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>> I'm thinking we need multiple repositories.
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>> So, what would our steps be?
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>> 1) Install SVN (done)
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>> 2) Make repositories for what folders, where? What command do
>> I use? Will I risk deleting my source code? or what do I do?
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>> Let's say my source code is at /web/theo/ but there are also
>> other source code at /web/fred and another at /web/harry/
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>> what do I do?
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>> And then step 3?
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>> 3) How do I work with this thing? What files do I edit, and
>> where? On my local computer? On the live server? And once my
>> changes are complete, then what?
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>> As these are web app files, I generally want to edit my files
>> in some kind of testing area on a server. But I also like to
>> have the files downloaded to my computer for local editing. I
>> kind of like to freely switch between the two, not worrying
>> too much as long as I remember which one (on my computer or
>> on the testing area on the server) is the most recent, then I
>> can copy them across appropriately.
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>> Also, I tend to do my work by editing the file using Transmit
>> for Mac, and a plain text editor. This is handy Transmit
>> polls a local copy of a file downloaded from the server. Once
>> it has found changes, it uploads the file back to the server!
>> So basically this means Transmit allows ANY app to edit any
>> file on my server, transparently! No need to worry about
>> uploading, permissions, paths, passwords or any wierd stuff.
>> Just edit with my favourite app, and away I go.
>>
>> Will SVN interfere with that?
>>
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> I very strongly suggest you start reading the fine book http://svnbook.red-bean.com/

Hi Guilio,

there are 407 pages in that book.

Also, many pages I simply cannot understand, and so it may take me 20
minutes to understand one page.

You could say "well thats why you should read the book in order to get
the answers", however there are many things that I don't need to read.
But I can't understand what I do or don't need to read if I can't
understand the material.

Also, by the time I've read a few pages, it really makes no difference
to me, because I haven't been able to implement any of it. So what if
I've read about "svn import" or some other command? Unless I try it I
can't understand it. But how can I try it unless I read the entire
book first? Or else I'll get stuck on the next step after the import,
and get myself in a muddle, because I missed steps in my
experimentation.

What if the whole purpose of this, is simply to find out "is SVN what
I need, or is there something else out there that is simpler and does
everything I need?"

Do I need to read an entire 407 page book, full of stuff I can't
understand without experimenting and testing it for myself, which
means I need to scan through the book to do the experiments because
the ansewrs aren't all in one place... do all of that, just to figure
out "is SVN for me"?

Surely a helpful quick start few steps tailored for me is a better
answer?

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