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Subclipse and PDEBuild

From: Steve Cohen <scohen_at_javactivity.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:13:18 -0600

I'm looking at trying to generate an automated build for a system I'm
resposible for whose "build system" is based on Eclipse Export. This
system has always used Subclipse as its tool for accessing the
Subversion repository and I've had little reason to complain, although
the build is not fully automated.

I first started investigating Maven, but I'm quite leery of it because
Maven seems to be much easier to use with projects that were Mavenized
from the start than it does with "converts". I've gotten quite negative
feedback from the Maven mailing list on the idea of conversion - their
recommendation is that you learn Maven fully before attempting
conversions. I don't have that kind of time. Also keeping the nice
"developer sandbox" of Eclipse is a requirement, and the m2eclipse
plugin seems to portend all sorts of other issues. I'm very leery of
stepping onto this ground.

Someone else pointed me toward Eclipse's PDEBuild.
(http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/PDEBuild) With PDEBuild, one can set
up "headless builds", i.e., automated builds that supposedly do exactly
what Eclipse export does - it's the same engine - but use pristine
sources from Version Control, that is, not use the UI for these kinds of
builds, but have a high degree of confidence that what the automated
build does will track exactly to what the UI build does with the same
sources. I have used a similar setup previously with IBM RAD (which is
based on Eclipse) and a CVS repository and this experience was a
success, so I am predisposed toward this approach, much moreso than I am
to Maven.

However, I've learned from the above site
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/PDEBuild#Building_from_a_subversion_repository
that PDEBuild's fetch task does not support SVN. But that there are two
plugins to handle that. The first is a SourceForge project
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/svn-pde-build/) which does not appear
to be very active. The second is from Subversive, which I had not heard
of before now, and there I learned for the first time of the competition
between Subclipse and Subversive. I also read of many problems with
Subversive (but there are a few who prefer it). I would rather not give
up Subclipse since it seems to be the more stable product at this point.

Has anyone got any experience using a system that uses Subclipse and
PDE-Build? Might I possibly be able to install both Subclipse and
Subversive using the latter only for the automated builds? Or might
Maven be the best choice after all?

Thanks.

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