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Re: Speeding up workspace

From: Talden <talden_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:17:40 +1300

> ... We're
> hopefully of getting 1.7 released by the end of the summer.
> ...

It's good to hear there's some confidence of this. I suppose it's
reasonable to expect that this is not another 'can of worms' situation
as with merge-tracking - the problem space is at least better
understood.

> ...
> but the WC-NG work is now on trunk,
> ...

And that pretty much seals it. I must have missed this commitment
being mentioned sooner as it's easily the most compelling.

> Early testing and bugfixing is something you can do that will help get that
> release here sooner.

Though to do that testing I need to learn to build it right - last
time I looked this seemed to be a considerable chore to get set up.
Maybe it's improved, this was quite some time ago.

> It should also be note again that the purported patch is not complete,
> ...

Fair comments, I was weighing this against the likely 6-9 months.
Also, first cuts of WC-NG are likely to be less stable than the
heavily exercised WC we have now - this patch seemed a quicker path to
a stable point.

> The release number may be part of it, but not a large part. I can assure
> you that there's no cabal in a smoke-filled back room attempting to game
> performance measurements from one version of Subversion to another.

Heh - no I didn't suspect a conspiracy, more a back of the mind
mentality where developers are thinking "well hell we've got better
coming and this will just distract from the effort".

> That may be true, but as has been discussed ad nauseum in other forums,
> Subversion and DVCS tools fill somewhat different niches in the same
> ecosystem. Sure there are "competing" customers, but a large number of
> Subversion users will be around in several months...and those are largely
> the ones driving WC-NG development.

This is not about some different niche, they're comparable operations
performing the same traversals necessary. If WC-NG proves to be
faster than bazaar to check for new revisions and apply them to the
tree then I'll be saying the same to the Bazaar developers. For these
kinds of points people really need to consider the D in DVCS to be
silent - the comparison stands.

> The best way to get voices heard is with code.

Actually it seemed as though code and effort was being rejected. That
the commitment to WC-NG in the next release is so final is by far the
most important point here.

The feature would have been greatly appreciated. Delaying WC-NG would not.

> PS - I think I've said all I can on this subject, so I'm going to sit back
> and enjoy the view.

Fair enough. Thanks for the frank feedback.

--
Talden
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