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Re: Required reqistration

From: Stefan Sperling <stsp_at_elego.de>
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 13:29:18 +0200

On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 09:34:13AM +0200, Jan Hendrik wrote:
> Concerning Re: Required reqistration
> Stefan Sperling wrote on 8 Aug 2008, 18:46, at least in part:
> > On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 06:11:34PM +0200, Jan Hendrik wrote:
> > > Concerning Re: Required reqistration
> > > Karl Fogel wrote on 8 Aug 2008, 10:54, at least in part:
> > >
> > > > Anyone is free to build binaries from Subversion's source, and to
> > > > distribute those binaries any way they want (including with
> > > > registration). I'm glad CollabNet is making these binaries
> > > > available, but they're not any more "official" than any other
> > > > binary someone chooses to make. You could make binaries too, and
> > > > they'd be just as legitimate as the ones CollabNet is making!
> >
> > > what about this "certified" business?
> >
> > I think that just means that you can buy support for these
> > binaries from CollabNet.
> >
> > Imagine you were providing Subversion support to many people.
> > It makes sense to make them all use the same binaries because
> > this saves setup costs and creates a certain degree of homogeneity in
> > the environments of your customers.
> That makes sense.
> What made this, let's say confusing, was that the release of
> version 1.5.0 almost fell one in one with the announcement of these
> certified binaries at CollabNet who are all but unrelated to
> Subversion. Seemingly an unfortunate coincidence.

Not so much a coincidence, but simply because there was obviously
demand for 1.5 among their customers. If I was selling Subversion
support, I'd make my clients use the latest stable version, too,
and provide it to them as soon as it becomes available.

I don't see any of the issues with this that you seem to be seeing.
Yes, people update from 1.4 to 1.5. That's great! That's why we
make releases -- so people can upgrade to get new features.

Debian also upgraded their Subversion packages to 1.5 as soon as it
was released. The FreeBSD ports tree has 1.5.1 right now -- the latest
stable release. OpenBSD is lacking behind somewhat (as usual ;),
their ports tree is currently still at 1.4.4.

Does that mean FreeBSD and Debian have a closer association to the
Subversion project than OpenBSD does? No. It just means some people
sat down and compiled the packages / updated the port Makefiles
right after 1.5 was released.

I have a semi-working 1.5 port for OpenBSD on my laptop but still
need to fix some issues before submitting it. Once I get this done
(or when someone beats me to it, which is equally likely), OpenBSD
users will have Subversion-1.5 binary packages, too -- without any
involvement by CollabNet whatsoever.

So I think you are seeing issues were there are none.
Please note again that none of the projects I mentioned above
depend on any kinds of "certified" binaries released by any


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